As critical as I've been of Brereton so far, I just have that feeling for tonight. 9/1 first goal. Either 25 yard screamer or in off his arse. A lot rests with Travis to get us up the pitch with that line-up. If we are level with 20 minutes left, that is some cavalry we have on the bench.

Just watched the highlights of that game to remind me. Good job we didn't take Dack and Graham off when we needed a goal.

Not sure but Leeds was on Boxing Day. It looks like some were and some were not on NYD. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7065212/sky-sports-red-button-championship-new-years-day-live-stream-watch-ifollow/

Bolton is on Easter Monday so, as it's not a Saturday game, I'm guessing that will be available as well?

The offer itself isn't bad. But with 5 of the 6 games either on Sky or behind the red button I think the point is that even those pushing fnobody believes it will work in increasing attendances for those game, even those pushing for more price-led deals.

I saw from 80 minutes onwards at Brentford and Brereton did nothing. Rothwell is not a left winger and Bennett is not a second striker. We can agree to disagree here, but the fact is that when Dack went off we lost all the momentum we had just been building up to that point. Either the substitutions had a negative effect, or Palmer coming on changed the game.

The problem is whenever we make substitutions up front, the players who come on don't show enough to justify doing it again. If we brought Nuttall or Brereton on and they kept changing the flow of the games, or nicking goals, then you would understand it. But in most of the games we play, when we remove Graham (and to some extent Dack) we don't get any better. The other stupid thing yesterday was not putting Rothwell in Dacks position. We took him off and it meant putting 2 more players out of position.

I agree Dack is getting a bit of stick but you said he was getting blamed whilst the players below him got a free pass. That's not happening at all. The same poster who calls him tubby and slow rips practically all of the team to bits a few pages back.

Nobody's is doing this though.

Every home game is £20, providing that you bought a ticket for the preceeding home game. Therefore there is a benefit to not missing home games for the 'floating fan'. Season tickets are 5% off every consecutive year up to a max 20% off. Lets show Rhodri that there is loyalty in football.

I think an I ssue is that Waggot has said price promos do not work, but we never seem to get one that you believe will work. Whilst there might be a handful of people who will be able to take this new offer up, I imagine not one person on either side of this argument will say they expect a significant take up.

But it wasn't 3 in 3, and most people didn't see the away performance. You talk about form being a factor, but are then arguing that people attended because it was 3 wins in 12 but wouldn't have if it was 0 wins in 12. 3 wins in 12 is hardly stirring form! Therefore that just leaves the opposition and I've covered that above. As for encouraging people to attend the last 6, we will struggle now as interest will wane even more oncd we have nothing to push for. However a well publicised £10 a ticket, £1 for kids will get a big crowd on for Bolton on Easter Monday.

Do I think that winning 3 in 12 games was the reason 12000 home fans bought tickets for Newcastle? Nope. Do I think we had a large number of home fans go to that game because we played well in the original tie? Not a chance. Do I think Newcastle as a club contributed to a significant increase in home fans for an FA cup game than we were used to? Kind of but not because they were a premier league side. I think people wanted to see a game with a much fuller darwen end and a good atmosphere, as opposed to seeing 'Newcastle's Premier league starts.' Certainly a couple of the people I went we were looking forward to what they thought would be a more lively atmosphere. However, regardless of what they were hoping for, they wouldnt have gone at £20. Again, it goes back to if you are going to do a deal on a single game, do a good one. I'd love the 6 game deal to boost crowds but, as many many people say, the people who will commit to regularly to going to Ewood are probably signed up on one of the two season ticket deals. People who do other things at the weekends and attend infrequently aren't going to be encouraged to spend £100 and tie up 6 dates for up to 10 weeks in the future.

How can you say you don't agree that many people don't attend because of price. Obviosly some don't go for that reason. We just don't know how many. Read my post above about the Newcastle game and the number of people I took. They went because I made an event out of it and it was a tenner.

£10 < £100

How much money left their wallet for the Newcastle game? How much money would leave their wallet for this 6 game offer? They would rather pay £10 than £100. Simple as that. They also don't regularly attend Ewood so don't want to book in 6 games as they may have other things to do on some of those dates. You can criticise their level of support and dedication all you want, but the discussion we are (or we were) having here is how to encourage them back. Slagging them off won't do that.

So now people won't return for Premier League clubs. Only big premier league clubs. Ok ? I took 8 people with me to the Newcastle game. Only 1 is a regular attendee. 1 had never been to Ewood before. They didn't go because it was Newcastle. My brother is mid-40s. He's seen many big games and big teams at Ewood. He doesn't go much anymore. The only game he's been too this year is Newcastle. Certainly, it helps that we weren't playing Northampton. However had it been £20 against Newcastle there would have been just 2 or 3 going in our group. Would any of my group go again for a tenner for a future league game? Possibly. Would they pay £100 for 6 games? Not a chance. Bolton is a 3pm kickoff on Easter Monday. A chance of 16000 home fans there at a tenner.

Interestingly, I think 5 of the 6 games as part of this deal will be behind the red button.

Don't know as I went. You may be right as it was an early kick off. Still doesn't negate the point.

Swansea and Stoke. Both not on TV. Both on a weekend? ???

No one is justifying the non-atendees. Just explaining one of the main reasons why they don't go and explaining why the 6-game deal won't work. Do you think that this deal will significantly increase attendances? There's a reason we got one of our biggest home cup attendances of the last 8 years for a midweek game against Newcastle despite it being in TV, and it wasn't due to success.

How unfit must Chapman be? Does he look like some tubby little barrell now who looks like hes wearing a fat suit. Surely with 2 or 3 weeks fitness training you can get a player ready for bench cameos. I keep reading he's a couple of months away. You could probably get me fit in 8 weeks!!! As for the Dack substitution, he'd just shown his first bit of magic to carve out his chance at the near post. I didn't think he was looking that tired. To take him off was one thing. To then move two players out of position, and switch a third to the opposite wing was ludicrous when you could have done a straight swap. It undoubtedly broke the momentum we had at that point. Palmer got on the ball and just helped them keep possession better. I thought he did well for them from that perspective.

Travis substitution was spot on. Dack however .....

Don't bother Matty. He's got to be on the wind up.

But at the start of the season we didn't realise that most teams in this league were going to be mediocre, or that we would keep shooting ourselves in the foot in the last 10 minutes of games. At the start of the season I'd have been happy with finishing mid table but not now. Now I feel like the last play off spot is up for grabs. Bristol City didn't look great today and they are 6th. Birmingham are 8th and we were strolling past them until we committed Hari Kari. Surely watching the way the season has panned out has made people change their view from the opening day. Maybe this season is like the year Leicester won the premier league. All of the big names are going through a transition period and by next year Stoke, Villa Swansea etc.. will have got their act together. We put ourselves in with a chance but , despite all of the talk, didn't strengthen and try and make a serious challenge. Disappointing.