Decent first half, poor second imo. Anyone decent will be very confident playing England. Yes we were missing some key players but I think that's the nature of the season - all teams will have absences. Also feel our centre backs always have an error in them which doesn't help and we aren't as ruthless as we should be. Both big obstacles to any success.

Yeah heck of a shock that one. I mean I appreciate Ireland aren't that good (although they were pretty decent when I was younger) but Luxemburg is a whole other level. Would expect a change of manager soon there as it's a devastating loss on top of some other poor results.

That is a very tough ask for them. Especially since they don't have the biggest squad. Could be what determines the relegation places. Not a fan of it but could see them targeting certain games due to the congestion.

If he does that we will get relegated. Three waste of wages right there.

Not my first choice to take over but doesn't play strikers at right back which is a start! Probably had Preston punching above their weight for a few seasons, especially given their resources. Success at Norwich too. So seems like a step up from TM in my book.

Think I agree with this. Well exciting might be pushing it given our finances but attractive. They can get players - even limited ones - who suit the system they want. Which is a big contrast to now where most players don't fit together in the same system. Of course that assumes that they have control over transfers (unlikely) and TM goes (very unlikely).

I would imagine it's quite easy for Waggott to defend TM at present. Given our perchance for arbitary and random resets, Waggott will be arguing that 1 loss in the last 5 games (roughly I think this is) pretty much all against top of the table opposition, shows how tough we are to beat. Of course this ignores the previous 6 matches and 3 seasons, but then they are quite skilled at rewriting or ignoring history. My point is that I think the recent run of draws will probably be able to be spun as a positive sign to our clueless owners.

Well once again I am baffled by our team. Nayambe clearly on his way out - if ever a game calls our for a stronger defensive rb it was this one. Evans 4 years, 8 transfer windows on and he's still on the team sheet that is sheer negligence and incompetence. Buckley - like the lad but needs a run in a settled position and team to see if any good. Up front is utter madness. Not sure of the logic with this team whatsoever. Also damning is one of this season's better players Elliott is regressing/not getting game time and Armstrong is injured for being rushed back too quickly. He can't get anything right at the moment.

Each interview gets worse with a mix of the bleeding obvious and blatant lies. We're where we are because we have lost a lot of games - well stone me, who would of thought it? If you don't win many games you are lower in the table. With such visionary insight who doesn't feel confident for the future? Wonder if Pep knows of this secret yet? Then there's the bull - we've been unlucky in so many games. That's not true. It's also logically untrue as unlucky suggests an unlikely occurance, which if it keeps happening isn't that unlikely or unlucky. And word play aside the fact is we have played badly in many of these games. And whilst we are on luck theres no mention of good fortune from Brathwaite's boot to the face, nor our volley ball attempts Vs Millwall. Because of course luck only runs one way round our parts. Honestly we are at the same level as Coyle for me. Just as little integrity if not less, and is now undoing any good work he has done previously. He has to go.

It is an accumulation - of his tactics, his team selections, his recruitment and his injury management. Very much death from a thousand cuts and he is holding the knife.

I think this is my take on it too. Well not Rotherham beating us (that could well happen if they are up for a fight) but that they don't have the ability or consistency to get near our current points total. Remember even the shambles of the other night yielded a point for us, dire though it was. We have 2 points more from this run of fixtures than feared already. Don't think that it is at all likely we will go down this season. Next season however - now that is grim. No Arms, Elliott or Dack. There's always another Walton or Ayala lurking in TMs recruitment. All in all without a change next year i would be very worried.

Aside from the very worrying approach to fitness (all those injuries are looking more and more inevitable by the day) it's his latest praise point that gets me. He's boasting of the fact we haven't lost by more than a single goal in ages. I had to do a double take on this. An achievement isn't winning, or being undefeated, but not loosing by more than a single goal. I mean talk about low standards. Am not sure they can get any lower.

Comedy gold. The unintentional self diss at the end was painful “I hear every week from other managers how good our team is, but generally that is on the back of a 1-0 defeat.” Thats the kind of quote you find in sitcoms like the office from clueless managers with no self awareness. Rather fitting really. Glad to hear we have got 90% of the game sorted and goals only consist of 10% of the game. If 90% of our efforts go on pointless possession (I don't think it's defending as we still have a few howlers in us every game) it explains why goals are so hard to come by. He's right we have an identity though - pointless possession based football that doesn't result in goals or victories. It's an identity all right - just a shame it's a crap one.

On the positive side I wasn't expecting a point. Surprised with how poor Bristol were and that we got something from it. Mind you, even with exceptionally low expectations, I'm always surprised by how how boring we can be. If Big Sam got the pitchforks out for negative football, napalm should be cracked out for this dross. Sadly I am not surprised by how frankly bizare the team selection and substitutions are, even though they continue to be mindbogglingly random.

Don't worry it's another positive result against one of the top teams. Possession stats show we dominated the game and on another night we'd have got what we deserved from it, all 3 points. We're on a decent run over the last 4 games, very few losses, we are hard to beat. We are still only about 40 games into our journey and have unbelievable luck with injuries. It's a young team that's only going to get better. Have I got the post match presser right? We are dross and next season is looking very grim indeed if TM is here. My main 2 gripes are: 1) Stop playing the hokey cokey with the team. A player starts and is dropped, no continuity whatsoever. Also some of those selected - urgh poor, poor players. 2) Stop changing their sodding positions. Buckley starts to do ok so we shift him round. Seriously do we want players to fail?

I think if any club knows that what is said and what is done are two different things then it is us. So many examples to chose from during the last 10 years. And that alone highlights a key point - saying something does not make it true. I have used the example of saying I will be a Prem footballer and am totally committed to that. I may even be totally committed to it, but that doesn't make it true or more likely. Before we get into the issue of thinking you can't trust anything anyone says, one huge qualifying factor is looking at the surrounding evidence of what is said. Is the person trustworthy? Does the evidence support what is being said? Is what they are saying plausible? They are the key tests - plausibility and character of those speaking. Looking first at the plausibility. There is a Cat 1 criteria list which gives a good indication of what is needed. We're basically trying to meet these with half the space. Is that likely, is that plausible, given the criteria? I struggle to see how. Now this doesn't mean it isn't possible but it is a concern. What makes it more concerning is the club have at no point suggested how it will be possible. If it were, and given on the face of it it seems unlikely, you would have thought that they would have reassured us about how it were possible. As it is all we have had are bold statements of commitment without any supporting evidence as to why. This massively dents its plausibility. No evidence = little plausibility. Let's move onto the character aspect. Sadly this is somewhat lacking too. From the past history of all those involved - neglect by Venkys and the trio's antics at Coventry - there doesn't seem to be much trustworthiness there. And to make matters worse the nature of how the plans were released also suggests that they were trying to sneak it through. All in all looking at the characters involved does not inspire any level of trust. So until one of these criteria starts to be met I don't think we can or should have any faith in this scheme. In fact if it were your own personal land or house at stake i'm certain very few people would trust in similarly dubious circumstances. Honestly the evidence all stacks up and not in a good way. I do wonder how it can be ignored for a few bold statements with nothing backing them up.

Fixed it for you. All three in one game is even more incredulous.

Hasn't he done well in a couple of roles? If so another worth a punt on to replace TM?

I'm afraid it is. There are £12 million reasons why we need to, and the treatment table and a look to next season only adds weight to the argument it should be tried. And we are pretty safe so it's certainly worth a run for a number of games. It's a 4 game running swing which I cant see happening (on the other teams part not ours, we can go that long without wins.) Like you say though - wouldn't want to try it when it actually mattered, it's far too risky.

What has this got to do with the debate? It's nothing to do with how good a striker Rhodes is whether he can play other positions. Also for all Bereton's versatility Rhodes got more goals in one season for us than I suspect Bereton will for us in 4 or 5. Bad comparison. You are utterly wrong on this. Both statistics and evidence of watching them play show Rhodes is much the better finisher. Admittedly Rhodes doesn't have anything else in his game but this comment is plain daft.

Exactly what I was trying to get at but put far more succinctly. I've lost track of formations this year but on top of a 4-2-3-1 we have played two variants of 4-3-3, including one with a false 9, a 5-3-2 and a 4-2-2-2. Elliott for example has played wide right in the midfield 3 and front 3 of a 4-3-3, central midfield (I think) and a false 9. No wonder we have no consistency when formations and where players play in them shift around so much! Limited players can thrive in a good formation and plan whereas we hinder even the most talented players in the squad by chopping and changing anything. Judging in the midst of all our changes is very hard to do.

Am I reading it right? It was asked how can we retain cat 1 in reduced space - Waggot says he believes it's possible. That's not a reassuring answer! Heck, it's not an answer. He believes it possible - where is his evidence? That was what was being asked! Not surprising he doesn't give any evidence when all evidence points against it. I mean I could say I believe I could be a premiership footballer, but given my fitness levels and the ball control of a drunken elephant people might be sceptical and ask what evidence I have for such an assertion. Don't think anyone would be convinced by me saying I believe it is possible. They would want concrete evidence that was the case.

He must have a liking for batnuts clubs then. Not much of a step up then given they are likely to be in the same league next season.

He'll get the win v Wycombe which will erase the previous poor form. Amazing how one win does that around these parts. Shame it doesn't do the same for the league table.

In fairness to both Rothwell and JRC it cannot help that the formation and eleven selected changes more frequently then the British weather! I suspect Rothwell does flatter to decide but it's not as easy to tell when we has played a variety of positions with a heck of a lot of different players. I do wonder whether the right manager would pick a formation and find a role for Rothwell where he is an asset. That's what good managers do, and the lad does have talent if no consistency as yet. I'd feel a lot more confident in letting him go if we had someone with a plan in charge. JRC I think has a ton of potential. His versatility sometimes works against him as it stops him nailing down a spot, although TMs constant tinkering doesn't help either. Definitely one I would keep as huge potential imo. That neither are clamouring to sign, as others have said, shows what a trainwreck we are.