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Did Mowbray and Waggott (if latter is married) take their wifes with them? The budget could depend on whether "Madame" takes a liking to them or not. Also have either been spotted with a cat?

Yeah you can only assume without any real evidence it was people who Venkys fought a lawsuit against. . Kean was a far bigger insult not to mention a number of other things appointing incompetent clowns like Shaw and Singh even if the latter managed one major positive result. The Coyle stuff was tedious bullying and a much worse example to set to kids than some people running on a field. I like Bennett but a premeditated cheap shot 15 months in the making is pretty childish. Bowyer hardly ran intense training sessions either but that's glossed over even though it could have made a big difference between getting in the playoffs and finishing just outside/midtable. He's a bad football manager (not a bully like some people if it was Coyle in hospital his negative traits wouldn't be ignored) and since families are so important on here his son seems like a pretty well adjusted, decent young man who works with amputees, etc. FFS the man's been fired what more do people want? Other people have done worse and said some of the same things like defending Kean, etc. No right to lecture other people about petty grudges and their overall qualities as a human being. Once again on Warnock there's suggestions he was asking too much for limited hours. Tan presumably offered more because I can't see him letting someone work 2 days a week. As for Tan he made one error with the shirts but what have Cardiff ever really done? Leeds United did sod all when Revie decided to change their shirts and as far as I know people didn't complain. Some mocked him for choosing a similar design to Real Madrid but besides that what else? Some of the stuff om Tan was xenophobia of the highest order with all the Bond villain stuff. I remember looking at Mackay and just detecting this aura of arrogance. There was something about him I just didn't like and nothing to do with him being Scottish. Of course he turned out to be an even worse person and Tan was right to fire him anyway. Over 10 million on a "project" was how Mackay put one signing. Kean would have been slaughtered for that and rightly so.

Think about the kids who might have been upset if Bolton were relegated. Hope no fans ran on the pitch there either kids don't need to be exposed to such frightening scenes. Speaking of MK Dons Stuart were you one of those praising Robinson yesterday? OK he was protecting his players but having worked there he's hardly a champion of football fans rights is he? As for Wimbledon I can't help thinking no revenge is likely to make up for anything MK did really. Kinda like if Venkys leave it will most likely be their choice rather than hounded out. Blackpool fans have probably come the closest to getting true revenge with the Oystons falling apart (even if it's Belokon really who instigated it) but will still be left scarred.

There was that game when Dickov scored the winner there just after Christmas. Birmingham City lucky Lowe's had injury issues. Besides that I don't really care about Birmingham with all the Savage stuff ages ago and under a previous regime. As for Bolton Wanderers only real relevance is Rovers need to repeat what they have done at the very least having also been promoted in 2nd. Though hopefully without going right down to the wire and finishing higher than 21st. I certainly think that's achievable though can't say I'm as confident as Dack came across yesterday about another promotion next year!

A few people can't stare at the away fans all game from up close. It's not that big a deal. It saves a few minor costs as well.

Well it probably would have made him return even faster!

Nixon says he's been watched (presumably by Rovers affiliated scouts) but thinks Mowbray isn't fully convinced.

Well at least it's probably not pretentious and acting like it's better than it actually is. Unlike Northchoke.

Parties aren't my scene but at least I know that and stay away from them. Especially if full of drunk people and I'm a little old to be playing pass the parcel.

OK I generally avoid Lower Darwen as well is that accurate enough? As for the London remark made an error there on the tower location. As some will know the "City of London" is the medieval historical centre of London with other administrative differences such as a separate police force from the Met, etc.

So? Do we have to call the Tower of London the "Tower of the City of London?" every time it's mentioned.

Well it was certainly closed at one point. I generally avoid Darwen though. No offence.

Hope not. Arsenal didn't even want Bentley a 50% sell on clause was an appalling decision. Sums up just how much the WFIT starved the club.

Not that untypical. The LT is a downmarket tabloid albeit it in a different way to the Sun/Star. The latter 2 are national with more trash and smut whereas the LT is local and just badly reported trash without so much smut. The Sun however does at least have some thought behind it's presentation (in some cases) and understands many of it's readers and sometimes reflects national mood. The Star is just downmarket all the way though I suppose it understands it's readers too. The mid market Mail would use similar headlines though and can't say I disagree really. So would the Guardian with their self righteous, hypocritical stance depending on who it is.

As long as she likes his wife. Not that it helped in one instance.

Might have been a better idea choosing something that isn't likely to be boarded up and derelict in a few years. Look what happened with that public house named after Jack (ended up like so many others) still can't see how he didn't top the voting for that bridge. Quite funny really that people in this day and age think naming a public house after someone is the height of prestige.

Well that's hardly bloody difficult!

I asked someone what their projected fee for Evans would be and they said 400k at most. Could see someone like Sunderland paying that though it obviously depends on who their manager will be. Plus the takeover going through but I can see them having a similar budget to Rovers this season if it's correct about Short writing off a lot. Evans has still been part of a L1 promotion winning squad and on paper that counts for something. For some lazy managers it's enough without looking into the real extent of his contribution.

John Barnes had the nerve to make the same claim (should note above quote refers to Sol Campbell) and this was AFTER his spells at Celtic and Tranmere.

Hey I doubt many people can say they won at Old Trafford in their only top flight game! OK some minor details like being a 89th minute substitute but can't take it away from him!

Really wish everyone would call it FUP though. Everytime people refer to it the other way a little part of me dies inside.

Hey I've had very limited discussions about that kind of subject in the past! I'm not sure about Ipswich yet. Evans has his faults but there's a lot of irony with people on here saying he hasn't invested enough. Not just talking about Venkys I'm also referring to the WFIT. Like Evans they have spent in the past but they have also caused 2 relegations, insulted the fans and made idiotic decision after idiotic decision. Evans has made bad decisions too of course though even the worst probably can't come close to Venkys past errors. Incredibly Evans has managed to top the trustees when it comes to delivering interviews, etc. He's given one in the past and at one time people didn't even know what he looked like! If you can't take the club any further (or you're capable of more but won't deliver the goods) then he probably should try to sell. He's not at the level where fans would seem ungrateful to call for a sale. I've edited this by the way and removed a lot more about the trustees, Walker family etc. So I'm trying to cut down on my obsession with them for the sake of my own stress levels if nothing else. It's impossible not to mention them though looking at the irony with people like Chaddy questioning Evans for not investing more. Some people have claimed Evans has nefarious motives for wanting to keep the club for stuff like tax reasons, etc. He's a tax exile though so I'm not sure where that theory would fit.

Nice of Jim to speak for the whole fanbase. . Reckon there's some argument for McCarthy being a better manager but I can't help wondering if he's just gone stale. He's getting a bit older and you can't help feeling perhaps another promotion could be beyond him. I'm in 2 minds on the remarks as the fans as I've liked some of his blunt speaking in the past (since it's without ego or being a straight up jackass) and dry humor but I can understand their frustration as well. I'm fed up of "be careful what you wish for" as an excuse of attacking anyone who has aspiration or ambition. As someone said in a comments section (on one of the local media sites down there) what are they supposed to do aspire to be boring for another 16 years?

I don't know about "worst" because it depends what the definition is. Jeff Stelling put out a book that named Ostenstad as the worst ever Rovers player. What a load of rubbish! Maybe people say it wasn't supposed to be taken that seriously but it's puff piece journalism. Top 10 lists, etc are lazy journalism in the age of information overload. People might say Kevin Davies, etc as one example and he was absolutely appalling while he was here. So from that perspective you could say he was the "worst". If you take the fee into account you might have a point. My ratings are based on a complete and utter lack of ability combined with performances/level throughout their career. Davies proved that he was a good player eventually albeit it one who blamed everybody but himself and never apologised to Rovers for his poor form. To an extent conduct as well if you include what he did before Man United game in 1999 when he was spotted the night before drinking, etc) Fettis for me has to be the absolute worst (he didn't have that many games but it was more than one or two like some of the players mentioned) because he was a goalkeeper who couldn't be relied on to even make a save. The defenders must have been terrified having to "protect" him. He probably turned Colin Hendry into a nervous wreck. Then there's Lowe who was a symbol of mediocrity for a long time. I just can't see any value in him as a player though either. What do Thenodrog and others actually see in the guy? He was a useless leader (what a joke choosing him as captain) with no inspirational or creative qualities. His so called defensive qualities never helped the club in any way. "Now I am become death, the destroyer of managers". I can see why Brown has been mentioned primarily for being a striker who couldn't score goals. If you judge players relative to their performances at THIS club though (as those who mention Davies, etc are obviously doing) you could make a case for him being ahead of a few. If little else he did at least have occasional good games. Can't remember Davies having any even when he actually scored. Remember the 3-0 win over Fulham even Brown's detractors thought he played well that night. As I say though lack of ability full stop is probably the main thing for me. I think everyone agrees that's why Kean would be 1st on any Rovers managerial worst list. That's before even bringing his personality into it! OK you could say Kean won at Old Trafford, Liverpool 3-1, etc if you want to contrast that with my remark on Brown occasionally having a good game. They were just flukes though or due to the players still retaining some level of professionalism. You can't say any player giving a good performance is a fluke scenario. Probably thinking too deeply on what's a bit of a "top 10/puff piece" equivalent kinda thread.

Don't think that is White's style. UFC are certainly stricter than boxing authorities have been in the past. Obviously fights are "hyped up" somewhat but I don't really think it's been a setup. Of course White hasn't ruled out McGregor returning so if the money is there they will almost certainly do business. Maybe I'm basing some of it from White coming across as somewhat "zero tolerance" in the past especially when it comes to certain illegalities like hitting referees, etc. The fact he hasn't ruled out McGregor though is telling. Certainly promotional set ups aren't unheard of. I was annoyed by Haye/Chisora suddenly being all "buddy buddy" after their fight and felt manipulated. I was also angry with myself for not seeing it coming. That said I didn't pay to watch the fight (I did watch it though) so suppose it's hypocritical for me to feel cheated lol. Still feel I'm right about White though. Maybe its not unimaginable to think McGregor set it all up with Namid (or whatever his name is) beforehand without White/UFC being involved. Don't want to get too deep with conspiracy theories though just because of one instance where Haye/Chisora managed to manipulate and get my attention. Normally I wouldn't have cared about that fight. Some boxers are truly crazy though certainly Tyson where "anything could happen" and often did! No wonder he was proclaimed as the king of PPV! Big difference between staging a brawl and biting off a chunk of someones ear though!