You're completely missing the point, which is that the Shrewsbury manager seem to be able to get something out of him, yet in years here as a permanent Rovers player Mowbray's never given him any support or too much of a run in the team. A bit like when Brereton first came. Whenever they did well, whether setting up a goal or even scoring, then they're on the bench the next game (usually not even getting on) meaning that whenever a young player gets any kind of momentum, the great man manager swats them down. Often accompanied by playing them down publicly during his rambling chat to the press. If he really was trying to mess with their confidence, it's hard to think what he'd do differently. So, therefore the contract extension isn't a bad thing, but it's hard to see what Mowbray is going to do but make it as hard as possible for him to succeed. My point was not whether or not TM should have been sacked (he obviously should, any Rovers fan who thinks 1 win in 15 is acceptable has a very low bar for which they wish the club to reach) as that's already been proven after the disaster that was the promotion push of last season.

Nope, the wrong move is not sacking Mowbray. A decent manager would get more from Chapman. Even a mediocre one, to be honest.

How Tony Mowbray getting sacked rumours work. Let's start a new one... --------- Hi everyone! 😀 I heard from someone that someone else or their cousin had been told that when they (that someone else or their cousin) randomly drove past Ewood the other night that they didn't see Tony Mowbray. They went past the old Aquaduct pub and around the Aldi/Macdonalds and they DIDN'T SEE MOWBRAY ONCE! He wasn't even in the (closed by that time) Ewood WMC or in the queue at the chippy. Do you reckon that means he's getting sacked? Spread the news! --------- Seriously, let's stop grasping at straws. He wasn't sacked after one win in 15 and he's sure as heck not getting sacked now. He's getting a contact extension in September, when they think we'll be busy concentrating on the league table, so get ready for that too. Venkys Rovers = a complete madhouse which always, but always, disappoints.

I'm at the stage where I don't give a f... about how we do next season when I think about it. Completely numb. My first Rovers game was in '85 under Bobby Saxton, so it's not as if I'm a neophyte when it comes to supporting the club. I think Mowbray is the seventeenth manager in my time and, to be fair, I don't blame him or anyone at Ewood for the malaise and death of soul that Rovers now suffer. It all comes from thousands of miles away in India. I'd love to be a Blackpool, a Bolton or a Wigan. They have their clubs back. We won't until the loons from Pune are out of our club. Let's just hope there's a BRFC left then and we are more like those clubs mentioned above and not more like Bury FC. Another proud Lancashire club.

Can't believe I'm defending Chaddy here but the reality is that anybody who attends Ewood or pays for iFollow or spends any money in the club shop is accepting and supporting the Venkys ownership of the club through their actions. Leaning toward being optimistic or pessimistic on a message board is neither here nor there and to be fair at least Chaddy did get there eventually in wanting Mowbray out. For all the good it did. There's no other alternative but to boycott anything Rovers-related if one wishes to refuse the "acceptance" of the owners and, as the Venkys are going nowhere, that's ultimately a futile gesture that just hurts the club (in a tiny way). There are no winners when it comes to being a Rovers support of Venkys, there isn't any single thing the fans have done since 2010 has been anything other than fruitless and in vain. Venkys have done just what they want to do, continue to do just what they want to do and will carry on doing just what they want to do. We're a hollow shell of what we were and arguing amongst ourselves is sheer irrelevance. It all feels so fatalistic as a Rovers fan, because fatalistic it is. The BRFC we know has been in a coma since 2010 and will not be revived until (if?) Venkys leave this club.

We need one signing. A good manager.

Football365 think we have the second-hardest start to the new season...

¡Estamos en la sede del Blackburn Rovers, casa de BEN BRERETON! - Pelota Parada Posted this on the TM thread but it should really be on here Chilean TV visits Ewood in the latest escalation of Brereton-mania, plus they speak to Bradley Dack and a Tony Mowbray scribbling like a nutter on his tactics board.

This is becoming Breretonmania. Chile has been visiting Ewood. "Estamos an la sede del Blackburn Rovers, casa de Ben Brereton" = "We're at the headquarters/campus of Blackburn Rovers, home of Ben Brereton. ¡Estamos en la sede del Blackburn Rovers, casa de BEN BRERETON! - Pelota Parada PS - Tony doing his impression of a demented Rolf Harris with a marker and his tactics board is from 4:40 onward..

All Ben's touches in the game against Bolivia

He should be called a lot of other names before "Tickerman". Most of them unpublishable on a family friendly website such as BRFCS.com.

After a terrible second half to the season, with: a collapse in league form, another serious Dack injury and Mowbray somehow staying as boss, this has been a heartwarming story just when it was needed. It's all absolutely bloody bonkers. Surreal yet lovely at the same time. Don't know whether to smile or pinch myself to try and get back to reality! Thanks for the information LordBaltimore and PotterLog. BB smashing one in at the Copa America. LOL!!!

Wonderful story. Barely 22 years old and scoring the winner in the Copa America while playing for Rovers. There's a player in there...it's taking a while to come out, but it's happening. Chile's own Big Ben!

You know this summer transfer window is turning out to be a turkey when you have to wade through 20 pages of posts on Jason Lowe in the transfer thread to get to a link with some academy player from Scotland.

There are plenty of awful players in in our recent past but to be the worst I think you have to hit all three criteria of; - Transfer fee. We've had plenty of terrible freebies, but at least we didn't also spunk away a big part of our transfer budget at the same time. - Performance on the pitch relative to expectations. Again, lots of awful players, but it's worse when they were signed to be a star player than if signed to be, say, a backup left back to only play now and then. - Consequences. Did the signing badly affect the club that season? Or even after that? Therefore, step forward by far the biggest turd in the steaming pile of shit of Rovers signings of the last four decades or so---- Kevin Davies. No contest. Broke our transfer record fee AND that included a knockdown fee for Beattie, scored a grand total of one league goal for us and, worse than that, had a massive part in our relegation which took us a few years to recover from and meant that Uncle Jack passed away when we were not in the top flight. To rub salt in the wounds, he went onto be a Bolton legend and, eventually, played for England. I salute you, Kevin Davies. You are the winner of the Worst Signing in the History of BRFC.

People were deluding themselves. If you don't get the boot after one win in 15 league games...then, you're obviously not getting the boot. It also proves yet again that we have no ITK posters anymore. Venky's Rovers is not the beast that BRFC was pre-takeover. Nobody knows what these plonkers will do or why...

Ok, but Armstrong is a couple of years older than BB. He scored 5 goals in 44 championship appearances in our first season after promotion. Ben got 7 in 40 last year. They were probably paying similar positions, wasn't AA mostly played wide back then? As Tyrone's post shows, people find it hard to discuss BB without mentioning the transfer fee. That's fully justified of course, nobody saying we should have paid that much and there's no doubt that considering the amount this has been a colossal disappointment. Still, we should be able discuss BB without going to extremes of "bag of kak" or suggesting he'll ever be a world beater. Or is nuance dead? Are the only choices to be; Shit or Superb?

Come on Mattyblue, let's not go crazy...read back and you'll see I said "in there", hence not brought out...Obviously, if he'd been able to "stand out" we would not still be having this conversation. (Who did stand out last year? AA - going to the prem probably, maybe Elliott at times - going back to a CL club. Hence, if he had "stood out" we'd be talking about if we could fend off bids for him this summer and not this type of chat). However, has he been managed well during this time? For most of the first 18 months he wasn't being played. I distinctly remember when he finally scored...we won 1-0...what happened the game after? Mowbray dropped him. He was put on as sub in different positions time and again. It was a textbook case of incompetent man-management by the inspiration that is TM. I repeat, "But the lad's got potential. He might not reach it, but it's strange that some want to write him off already." It's not a question of deciding whether he'll be Messi in a year or retired, he'll be neither. But will he go on to have a decent career? It looks like it. He might need a better manager though, like the rest of our youngsters.

Not sure what your 'Witch Hunt" reference relates to.

Except that's not how it works. It fact, it veers to the fraudulent. Players exchanged don't just become frees because the clubs decide to cheat a third party out of what was agreed in good faith.

It's a slow burn with Ben but there's a cracker of a play in there. Just turned 22 and watching Messi on the pitch...ok, he didn't get on. But the lad's got potential. He might not reach it, but it's strange that some want to write him off already. Why are some like that with youngsters? Give them a chance, it's not like they're a 35-year old free transfer or anything. They're obviously not going to be the finished article.

If AA's contract is up in 2022, then it makes no sense to lose him for free after the next season. He's hardly going to fire us to promotion to the prem while we have Mowbray in the dugout. As for where the money will go...who knows? Lack of investment in the squad led us to League One, but then they also allowed TM to blow 12million on BB and Gally. No rhyme nor reason to those lot.

No, he's not a results-based manager, remember.

No. Yes.

Looks like a reasonable deal until one remembers that we then went and spunked it all on Sam Gallagher.