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I had the very same flashback!

After a poor standard first half, that was a decent win in the end. Why Mowbray can't just stick to that formation, one that seems to suit the players the most, I'll never understand.

The £20m is not an investment, as there's no return on it.

Pickering out & Travis doubtful according to El Mog

Two teams coming off the back of poor results. Stalemate. 1-1.

C'MON Stanley. Never.

If for no other reason, we need a change of manager simply for change's sake. The whole thing is stale and the fans need a shot in the arm, something new to believe in.

No one on this board did say that Rovers spent £85k, did they? It was a hypothetical coversation. So what on earth are you going on about?

I've done a quick calc of the points we've amassed over the last 46 league games, or the equivalent to a full season. This comes in at 56 points, one less than what we finished up with at season end. 56 points would have placed us in 15th last season, exactly where we ended up. I also totted up the points amassed since the start of last season's death spiral, starting on 6/2 ironically with a 1-0 loss at QPR. In total, we've played 33 games since then, gaining 35 points. Extrapolating that over 46 games, we'd end up with 48 points. Last season that would have placed us in 20th place, just 5 points safe from relegation. I accept that we can fit statistics to suit any narrative, but this to me is clear evidence that we're regressing. It has to be turned around, or relegation will become a reality sooner or later.

That's my fear. Unless the club acts quickly, we're in the mire. I genuinely think we'll go down unless something drastic happens.

I read a post - last night I think it was - likening Mowbray to someone playing Career Mode on Fifa. This is so true. It's as if he thinks he has a real-life games console, trying to be clever, swallowing the trivial stats, and going from game to game picking random formations and player positions. It's beyond a joke, it really is.

Spot on. All 4 of the summer loans look poor to me. A total waste, based on what I've seen so far.

Players were fatigued, he says. I don't buy that at all. Aside from Brereton, they've all just had a fortnight off!

I don't think it's too much of stretch to say that we could get relegated if he stays much longer. The club needs to take action now.

Is that 6 changes from the side which started against Coventry? Jeepers. Anyway, COYB.

Waggott's get out of jail card for a bumper crowd for the Sheff Utd game, could be with the visitors rather than with our latent support. £14.60 could well prove very tempting for a big travelling support. I've got City/Utd mates at work who always enjoyed coming to Ewood. It's an attractive away fixture.

The competition will benefit Nyambe (or whoever) in terms of salary more than it will benefit Rovers in terms of transfer fee.

There will be once clubs realise they can get him for a song.

My take on attendance figures: Attendances are generally dictated by 2 factors; success on the pitch and price. When the team is playing well, price becomes less important as people like to watch and be associated with a winning team, and so are prepared to spend on it. When the team isn't playing so well, price becomes more important. For where we are now, price is the overriding factor. I personally don't see charging £14.60 - or whatever it is - massively impacting the gate. IMO, it's not low enough to make that much difference. ie for a lot of people, it's still not cheap enough to entice them into paying to watch a mediocre side.

That may be true for elite teams with elite players who can adapt. We are and have, neither.

From his latest LT waffle: “Formations don’t really matter in modern day football, when the game is so condensed from front to book or side to side, it doesn’t matter whether you have two in midfield or three in midfield, you watch the top teams play, when they’re defending everyone is behind the ball, when they’re attacking they’re attacking six, seven players and the best teams have that. Why does he constantly mess about with formations then, if they supposedly don't matter?

Hopefully it'll be on Rovers TV

Probably, but possibly not entirely the case. They may also be sick of playing under Mowbray et al.

Running with it? Hardly. If you read my original post in this thread, you'll have noticed that I caveated it with 'If true' You'll also have notoced that it wasn't me who quoted the 85k in the first place. I was simply responding to a hypothetical discussion with another poster.

I wouldn't be too sure about Derby. 8 points from the last 5 games, versus our 5.