Exactly.

Venkys and their acolytes absolutely coordinate the shit that gets said on there. I've seen things on there that are very specific responses to some of the musings on here that can only be from someone involved inside the club or venky organisation. Then there was that time when someone noticed about four or five posts all within a few minutes of each other saying the same guff, all posted around 4am GMT.

Ideally, all the different groups would be united under the WATR umbrella and we all move as one. There's a lack of transparency with The Trust and a disconnect with the membership. This needs addressing immediately.

One thing we need to do is set the record straight on that point. They've never invested a single penny into the club. The only thing they've done is cover the losses that they themselves have created and are responsible for.

At this point in time they're best to join the rest of the fan groups in action against the owners and board. There is only one way we are going to see Blackburn Rovers return to it's former glories and that is the removal of venkys. Asking politely for them to sell is not enough in my opinion. It needs to be demanded, with consequences for those demands not being met. Get with the programme.

The guy who came out and told us to be grateful for venkys? Fuck that insidious little prick, he wants to be in woth the big dogs then he can take all the shit that's coming their way.

Well there's nobody else we can put in midfield next season so he'll be starting every week.

Yep I'm in no way attacking the Trust here, just seeking clarity and asking the question; Are they pulling in the same direction as the rest of us? If not, why not? We've been talking about what their stance is for years now, this shouldn't be a hard thing to communicate. As a paying member, I feel absolutely zero engagement from them. This should be taken as what it is - constructive feedback.

You can certainly carry a tune riversider. The Ruts - Staring At The Rude Body

They need to communicate this to the membership. We've been asking this question for literally years. As a member, my opinion is that the only interaction we should be having with the owners is assisting with the transition to a new ownership (chucking their shit out of Ewood and Brockhall).

They'd have been better to just keep shut. They've called the bluff of the fanbase one too many times and I think this time it's not going to work. Out of curiosity, how did you do that? I'm not in any way a tech person.

Just woke up and read the club's response. As expected by everyone, it was totally insulting and said absolutely nothing at the same time. Absolutely hilarious. A massive own goal. It goes to show just how thick they are that they've called our bluff. It won't work this time.

This is the crux of the issue. What is the stance of WATR? This isn't a difficult thing to communicate.

Can someone give some clarification about whether the trust are a part of the recent protest movements against the club or not? @TheRoversGRL This is that communication we've been talking about...

From the sound of it that's the case for most of these players.

Attaching this for use in anything that's being done. Needs updating with the last 12 months, but I don't have the time so I'll leave that up to someone else to take over. PM me for any questions or any other documents I have. Timeline.xlsx

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Without their shields they'll be fully exposed.

As @wilsdenrover said, the court case was brought about by venkys challenging the ED's decision to not grant them a No Objection Certificate. Since that all started they've sold the house and it appears they've been given permission to send an extra £15 million. I'm assuming this is just sitting in the VLL account until they've run out of money at the club. What you say about kickbacks, inflated contracts and agent fees all seems to be a likely scenario. We know for a fact that they've done a lot of that in the past. When you read about money laundering in football, this is generally how it's done. From day one they've been doing this stuff and they only tightened things up once the investigation was underway. There's a case to be made for them being just disinterested in the club but that doesn't explain all the involvement with corrupt agents and corrupt organisations like Kentaro. Throw into that the investigation and a different sort of picture starts to emerge. Since day one there's always been something dodgy about their presence here, what you say about the way they've financed this whole operation seems more than plausible, although I'm not any kind of specialist on how the Indian finance system works. There seems to have been enough pressure on them to sell the house so maybe the pressure could get to the point whereby they have to sell the club to relieve it. We as fans can play our part in building up that pressure by getting them in the spotlight.

That's not how things work though. If you sell more tickets you've got more people there for repeat business, selling pints, pies, shirts etc. In short, you make more money by selling more tickets. You do need to have the most basic understanding of consumer economics and as is so blindingly evident, not one single person who works for the venky organisation possess such attributes.

Interesting how we have two heads and the owners two hats 🤠 🤠

When they sell I will actively make the effort to come back, but until that time they can do one.

I could have managed that team to at least the semis in those competitions. When they got to the finals they were totally outclassed and outfoxed tactically. That game against Spain was embarrassing. Men against boys from the first whistle.

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They need to get a No Objection Certificate for every transfer of funds overseas. So as I said at the time, Waggot was being disingenuous (remember he said there SHOULDN'T be any impediment to funding). If you don't believe me then read the club accounts.