It's a bit fishy.

Just saw that. He was good but wasn't good enough for the Ramones.

The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations

That's why I've been stressing we ensure all our moves are peaceful and lawful. There's plenty of ways to cause disruption without crossing the line of the law. But let's keep them guessing anyway, all the extra policing and security will be costing them a fortune 😎

I'm 100% with you on that. 👍

On what grounds could they take legal action? As far as I'm aware he's not overstepped any legal boundaries and he's far smarter than the people he's going up against.

@Herbie6590 any chance we can make this a general research thread where we post all links to venkys and their destruction and the club? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lXkZ_O-dlwPjMGcmTQEAUYuDWUjr5U5_/view?usp=drivesdk Prime sources (or as close to) only.

It's important to state the obvious that these rumours are just that. Is all of it true? Possibly. Is some of it true? The smart bet is yes. I am suspicious of a couple of things. If Gestede had been talking to other managers since August then why did it take weeks to appoint VI? Quite a bit of what's said above has been said on here over the last few weeks and months, there some more meat to the bones in what the supposed insider says, so is this embellishments or actual truth? We've heard different versions of John Park's departure. One version is that he had a power struggle with Gestede and left (nixon). The other that was passed on from Unleaded, is that Eustace was blocking any and all transfers and Park left as a result. Now there's this version above that claims the exact opposite and leans more into Park vs Gestede. Amazingly, the most credible version is Nixon's. I never believed the info that unleaded was passing on about this, it was all too conveniently pinning all the blame on Eustace. Not 8n any way a knock on unleaded, he's usually got solid info but I think this time he was fed a load of shit. This third version again is an expansion on what we've already heard. The main thing that sticks out to me is that once again venkys are portrayed as a completely innocent party in all of this. They're not. This is all very good for discussion but we must make sure we stick to the facts when it counts. I personally don't take any of this too seriously until someone is willing to put their name to it. One thing's for sure, they can't discredit or argue against this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lXkZ_O-dlwPjMGcmTQEAUYuDWUjr5U5_/view?usp=drivesdk We've plenty of ammunition to use against them without having to rely on rumours and gossip.

That's a good idea. All info has been derived from the most primary sources available. I was very careful to ensure that none of the things in there can be argued against.

You know how players swap shirts at full time, I wonder if we can swap ownership instead?

This is how they treat people. Mowbray was a loyal servant to them, took the attention away from the owners, played a huge part in dumbing down the club and fanbase to keep everything under wraps, played the players he was told to play. When it came down to the end they just blanked him completely until he left. That's how venkys treat people loyal to them.

The new shadow men by the looks of it.

Explains why his face doesn't fit properly on his head.

There is a real possibility that this is venkys throwing the shadow man under the bus in an attempt to distance themselves from this latest disaster. Say Suhail is removed, then what? Suhail is no doubt the biggest issue we face on the ground in Ewood but that is because he is venkys personal errands boy. He's running the club under direct instruction from them. We keep seeing this tactic over and over again from them. Things turn to shit and they trot out someone who will take the flak for them. Kean, Anderson, Shaw, Coyle, Waggot and now their own man Suhail. As per usual venkys are portrayed as an innocent party in all of this. I don't believe that for one second. The removal of venkys is the only thing that will bring any kind of normalcy back to this football club. It is they that are the problem, nobody else.

This is a bit like the can't send, won't send debate. The answer is both. Are they completely brain-dead cretins? Yes. Are they deliberately taking actions to ensure that things happen to their advantage? Yes. There's so many things that have happened, and repeatedly keep happening here over the years, that just do not happen anywhere else. The repeated botched transfers, which mysteriously only happened to incoming transfers, paying out players 80% of their contracts to leave, instructing managers to not play certain players to avoid triggering contract extensions, having the club run by agents, running misinformation campaigns and using divide and rule tactics against supporters.... I could go on. All of the above and much much more cannot be simply attributed to simple incompetence alone. As for their phobia of promotion to the Premier League, just look at how they've reacted to having the media attention turned in their direction over the last two weeks. They've gone into complete meltdown, do you really think they'd be able to handle the scrutiny that would be coming their way from the club being in the top flight? They couldn't handle it 15 years ago and it's exploded in the time since. They're currently under investigation for financial misconduct by their own government, do you think they'd want the world media digging through their affairs to build a story? Do you think they can handle the pressure of having attention drawn to things like this: https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2024-04-05/indian-poultry-giant-selling-antibiotics-for-growth-promotion-on-farms They have a lot to hide. I've never once bought the idea of them being totally disinterested either, they've got their men on the ground reporting back to them and I suspect that nothing goes on here without their consent. Whatever it is they've been up to has been rumbled by the ED investigation and they're in full protection mode. The last thing they want is a global media circus unearthing all their dirty secrets. There's a lot that goes on here that can be chalked up to just brainless stupidity for sure, but be under no illusion there's more going on than meets the eye.

Agreed. The old one just used to post transfer twaddle and then some vague shit about venkys possibly selling up every now and again. This incarnation is posting some pretty damning accusations, some of which has been corroborated by other people's bits and pieces of information. Once again, venkys are shown to be involved with the day to day goings on. They always have been.

Not been on for a bit and just catching up so a chaddyesque multi quote to summarise some of the numerous pages in this thread. It's such a disgrace that fans such as yourself have reached this point. We constantly get accused of being entitled, like we expect to win the champions league every year and we only just turned up when Jack Walker appeared on the scene. It's all complete and utter bollocks. We're all Rovers through and through. We're there through thick and thin, but this? I know I certainly can't in good conscience support this in any way. The only option is to starve them out. One thing I ask to anyone criticising us is, would you accept this at your club? No? Then why the fuck should we? It's a complete non argument made by folk who haven't the gumption to spend five seconds actually thinking about what they're saying. They're just repeating complete bullshit on autopilot, it's pathetic. Well done for setting him right. What an absolute cretin. It really is a triumph of modern medicine and more importantly our social welfare system that folk like this can go on to live long lives. 200 years ago thick cunts like this absolute shitgibbon wouldn't have survived childhood. Speaking of smooth brained low level operators..... I was wondering how long it would take for the club/venky plants to start posting in this thread. The only person trying to sow division here is you. It won't work. I hear that Suhail has just stood in some dog shit and needs one of his pathetic urchin underlings to lick his boots clean. Off you pop now son, your master is calling. @glen9mullan Enjoy your holiday and hope you had a good curry. When we rid the club of this virus I will petition the next owners to install a bronze statue of you next to Jack's. Oh, and a Bob Crompton one as well. I'll look at setting up a filesharing link for the timeline and any other files so it's easily accessible. If one of the other folk who I've sent it to could sort this that would be much appreciated, I'm not the most computer savvy person. Over the last four years they have continued to dig their own grave deeper and deeper. This year, with them sabotaging our promotion prospects once again, the have handed us the shovel and climbed down into their hole. All we have to do is bury the fuckers. I can appreciate that not everyone is going to stop going but I think you really need to have a long hard think before renewing and ask yourself the questions "What am I actually getting out of this. Do I want to support this?". The club have repeatedly shown that they have nothing but absolute contempt towards us and continually take the paying supporters for mugs. It's a complete and utter disgrace. Whether you attend Ewood Park or not is irrelevant, we all love Rovers. We were here before these small time conmen and we'll be here long after they've gone. This is our club. It is not, nor will it ever be theirs.

Or a deliberately shit appointment to completely destroy our promotion chances, that they can bin off after 3 months and claim that they're taking action. Spend two months looking for a new appointment, not sign anyone in summer until some shit loans on the lat day, claiming that business couldn't get done until the new head coach was in. Operation plod along forever continues.

Complete bollocks

This defeat was absolutely inevitable. A Rovers win should have been 100:1 odds minimum and a boro win 1000:1 odds on. The only silver lining to all of this is that the fanbase seems to be finally turning and waking up to the charade that's been going on here for the last 15 years.

They've always counted sold tickets as the actual attendance. Also, fictitious ticket sales is a common money laundering tactic in football....

Hahaha gold

Express yourself by blowing a whistle throughout the whole match. If even a few hundred people did this it would cause absolute chaos and the game would be nigh on impossible to complete. Disruption to matches is the only protest that will get enough attention on the owners. If you're not prepared to do that then stop going.

National League North

Bollocks to her, get NWA.