I think theres a player in there. He's joined a horrendous side though

Said it a few times now. And it makes sense not having a new poll all the time. We all know how fickle football fans are. But I for one would be very interested to see the outcome of a new poll on Mowbray. Mods??

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I just want to bump this thread up to remind people of how shite we really were. I want my money back

Back on topic. I know we can't have a new poll every week. But after we put a good run together, followed by that shambles and it being an international break. Surely now is a good time for a Tony Mowbray poll

We are literally going nowhere under Mowbray. His new possession style of football has rendered us toothless in attack. We were very fortunate to score 2 against QPR. I was there with 2 neutrals and both commented that it was like watching a friendly, that they had seen 6 goals yet weren't entertained as we were coasting through and weren't competitive in the slightest. Scabby goal against forest after the game generally being drab. We keep the ball without ever threatening. When we lose it, it is dangerous positions and we're exposed. I foresee this actually being the start of a very poor run which will culminate in Mowbray losing his job. Sometimes the signs are there that the rot has set in. The bad run of form has just begun. Unfortunately he will lose his job too late. The only player who will give the side some hope now is travis. As he is the only player which drives forward from the centre. Nevertheless. We're toast, directionless, uncompetitive, stale, boring, players and manager stuck in comfort zones, lacking passion, leadership, drive, heart and most importantly hope. It is the start of a repeat of the post Christmas run. Scarily early this time though

William's Instagram says he's gutted for Cunningham and knows he will come back stronger.

That was one of the worst performances I have ever seen. The effort wasn't there. But the thing that was most wrong was the philosophy. We played it side to side, going nowhere with the ball until we lost it and then we were horribly exposed. The team quite clearly had no idea what they were trying to do. Corry Evan's and Downing in the middle didn't play a forward pass all game. We were so bad!! Mowbray has to go. It was that bad. QPR weren't good. I'm seething. It was a joke. I am not just saying this but that was a performance so, so bad that you rarely see them. Thanks Mr Mowbray but your dinosaur tactics are going to see us winless between now and Christmas at which point you'll be after a job again. Because you don't know what you are doing.

We were shit. Having beer. But I'll tell you all how unbelievably shit we actually were later. We were really shit. Tony has lost it. Hashtag

Why on earth is this discussion dominating the Lewis Holtby thread

The last deal he signed was ridiculous from the clubs point of view. Nothing in there to protect us given the length of the deal. We really need to tie him down to a 4 year deal. Allow a release clause for a healthy amount which is invalid if we achieve promotion. That way he knows if he performs well he will get a move and he gets a wage increase to boot. Protects us from losing him on the cheap if he enters the final year of his contract. There was another article in the LT the other day about him not being fully appreciated. I think it is fair to say he has transformed the club. We wouldn't be where we are without his goals. He works his socks off, he has a touch of class and has been a major part of the fans reconnecting with the club. Him, Graham, mulgrew and mowbray. Class player and long may he continue in our colours.

Ben Brereton? Surely at this point a 6 month loan would be best for all concerned

Not real evidence but I have noted that Mulgrew has liked multiple Rovers related posts on Instagram including Tony Mowbray interviews. We are all going on very little evidence there was a bust up. Maybe it's a simple as Mulgrew knowing he wouldn't get regular minutes and moving somewhere local so as not to disrupt his family

I think it just shows how fickle fans are. One bloke posts on a message board that he has thrown his toys out the pram after being called out in an interview (in which he very clearly wasnt called out and the question about defence was clearly sidestepped) and you are saying fuck off then. I am not saying Mowbray shouldn't be more ruthless. I think all on here can see that has been a weakness of his. It's only a message board but nevertheless it was an extreme reaction based on very little. It seemed like you were climbing down a little with the thanks for getting us out of league 1, then followed it up with an, I'll reserve my clapping comment. I'm not comparing him with tugay, friedel, Shearer etc. But the bloke has led us well in his short time here. I'm sure he wont miss your claps though cucumber

Take your point. But QPR arent under an embargo

I think this is a disgusting attitude. Mulgrew has been poor for a while. The bloke needed replacing. But for the last 6 or 7 years or so it's been difficult to really sing many players names with pride. I have loved Dacky and Mulgrew. Charlie has been our captain and given his best. I see him as an honest pro and respect to him for still wanting to play first team football. He goes with my thanks. Non of this f off stuff. Bloke doesn't deserve that. I'd clap him back at ewood and sing about him being better than zidane one last time.

Cunningham would be straight in after a week as Bell isn't one of the boys or in Mowbrays inner circle.

Doesn't matter if I'd heard of Cunningham last week. Which I had. Just making a hypothetical question based on the incredibly grainy links we have. Jacob Murphy by the way

Out: Dack In: Hanley, Cunningham, Murphy Would you?

Best mate is a big QPR fan. He has always ranted about Lynch being utter crap. We are scraping the barrel here. And unless something magic is pulled out the hat I am genuinely shocked at Mowbrays decisions this window.

It would be exciting if we were to bring in a left back and centre back. But I've a feeling Mowbray is having trouble finding a centre back within budget so is looking at a left back which would see a permanent switch to centre back. Hopefully not as first choice. It does give us more depth across the back line but boy are we gambling an a 21 year old kid from city cutting the mustard

And please tell me how many goals and assists Bennett has provided from right back. You are substituting a very decent defender who is poor going forward for a very poor "defender" who is poor going forward

The reason this thread is here is not because we lost, it is down to some of the baffling decisions Mowbray seems to make. I think a centre back and a left back and we have a quality squad. But Mowbray will continue to exclude the same players for average dross played out of position. If Nyambe had started at right back, Rothwell on the left, Arma on the right this thread wouldn't be here. It's not the loss it's the stupid fu**ing decisions Mowbray makes again and again without justification. Personally I think at some point he'll change it. After about 8 games and the players coming in having blinders at which point they will still be at risk. He's too slow, too stubborn and refuses to drop his favourites. There is nothing wrong with the players managing the dressing room. Leicester City won the league that way. But as soon as the senior players who are managing it don't perform and arent dropped both those players and the manager lose faith and respect. Final word. Elliot fooking Bennett.

Have you purposefully chosen the most uninspiring team you could or is that genuinely the line up you expect

Has it been reported how much we are getting for Nuttal