West Brom thing? Jog my memory?

You know nothing about our club if you think our attempts to get promoted from this league happen every year. Technically speaking yes, as we are in a league where promotion is possible and claimed as the stated goal. But this is the FIRST serious attempt we have been able to make to get promoted to the top tier since we got relegated in 2012. In fact before this season I think we have only even been in the top 6 any further than ten games into a season on what, one maybe two very brief occasions (I'm talking like, a game and then back out of it). We won't be in this position again next year. This promotion opportunity means a lot to us, so stop getting pissy that we aren't pleased you keep messing with the availability and fitness of our main source of goals. Not only will we not effectively challenge for promotion again next season, but there is a serious risk of a relegation battle. We are losing a significant chunk of our squad, which is already a thin one, and most of them for no money, and we don't have much money to replace them (most of any money we do get will likely come from the sale of...well, Brereton, if you don't get him more seriously injured and drive down his value). This season is likely absolutely pivotal for the future of the club. As for 'go cry to FIFA', we will 'cry' where we like, and I think our very own board where you are just a guest is as good a place as any.

Eh? The article doesn't say any such thing. Worrying that it sounds like something he would say though.

If a lot of those figures are true, there's a lot of travesties in there. There are some that definitely aren't up to date though, looking at the contract lengths. I sure hope we didn't make Edun our 8th highest earner though (7th highest that we own), or put two LBs in our top 7-8 earners.

The next case scenario is coming eventually anyway. No sense keeping the club on pause to stave it off.

Agreed, don't think that 5.6 mill figure is right at all. There are running costs, bonuses and taxes of course, and the academy is about 2.5 mill (3.5 but we get a 1 mill grant), but it's not like we don't have any income at all. I also don't think our average wage is about 4k p/w.

Luton are bottom of that table. They are 3rd in the real one. If we are overachieiving, what are they doing? We also have one of, if not the, best academy in the league which massively underpins our squad strength. Especially since we keep graduates on low wages. QP, Boro, Huddersfield all also doing much better than their wage bill indicates. Stoke, WBA, Reading and Cardiff doing much worse.

No, I didn't insinuate that. You decided to take that from it. I don't know why, probably because you're always hyper sensitive and hyper defensive when it comes to the club and staff. And you mean 'moot' point.

Irrelevant to my point.

Sharpe is talking cobblers about what it says for Dack's character though. It doesn't really say anything. He has been out for about a year, picking up a handsome wage for no end product. Any footballer worth the name would miss playing, but on top of that we don't have another game soon because of the international break so he has a nice rest after it, and getting himself sharp and firing us to the Prem could be his career defining moment, as well as a huge bank balance boosting one. Of course he played in the game. No need to blow smoke up his arse for it.

Best one posted so far.

But the owners do select the manager, and they've been selecting him for 5 years.

I feel like a new manager now is perfect timing (not that it will happen of course). We could really use that new manager bounce that often comes along, the honeymoon period. Might just be enough to squeeze us into the playoffs. If we continue with Mowbray, I can only see things continuing in the same vein and us definitely not making the playoffs. I don't think we will get this good a shot at the playoffs again for a long time. For me, it's time to roll the dice. That said, I'm not interested in Johnson or Dunn for the top job. It probably wouldn't bring the new manager bounce because they are already known to the players, plus Johnson has zero senior managerial experience, whilst Dunn hasn't really succeeded with his senior managerial experience. I'm not one for the nostalgia of appointing an inexperienced manager just because he used to play for us, it's idiotic logic IMO. I don't know who is available right now though so I can't suggest anyone.

Yep. Probably even if Reading went off for their international break and we carried on playing the game.

Do you want him gone?

Probably why I didn't notice him. It was hard to pay attention to the game near the end until we got into promising positions (which of course we threw away like Mowbray supposedly throws away the chance of funds to strengthen the squad).

Has Hedges touched the ball?

Penalty that. But I'm not even mad that the ref acknowledged something happened, blowing the whistle and stopping play, but gave us nowt. We don't deserve a thing and we would only miss it anyway.

Wishful thinking. Reckon he will get a new deal.

The last 4 games we should have been coming away with at least 8 or 9 points. Looks like it will be 4 though. Can't piss away your winnable games like this, even if I fully expected us to.

Want that point back? 😞

Yep, I know all that. But we don't deserve anything from today, especially after that ridiculous miss just now, so I'd take the point. We aren't gonna be making the playoffs.

Don't remotely agree with any of that so we will just leave it there.

He isn't as rapid as Dolan, Khadra or Gally I wouldn't say. He's also not an attacker, whether we stick him there or not.

Oh I totally agree. But since I suspect we are about to walk away with as many points as the UK gets from most countries at the Eurovision, I'd take a point.