Mowbray's eventual successor will be Mark Venus. "You will be in good hands with Mark Venus" Mowbray will say as he departs. The whole club stinks at the minute, and I just can't see it changing.

Do you not find it odd that there wasn't some huge gushing tribute to him yesterday with it being his 4th anniversary? Even scrolling through twitter his biggest fan Benno and co haven't even piped up.

We'll draw the next two I reckon to keep him ticking over.

Maybe not a venkys shill, but you see one of the advantages of the scheme that we'll cut staff costs so effectively a thumbs up on people maybe losing there jobs?

It didn't come up last season as it never looked a possibility. I dont think it is this season either, looking at that photo of Hulls drop last season though does put it in your mind a little though.

So it is i read it the wrong way around! I'm sure Mowbray would put some spin on it another way though, more blocked shots or more possession or something.

One point more in Lampards season though. Imagine that under Mowbray, it would be hailed as fantastic progress.

Ipswich is too far away from his beloved Boro, no chance he would go there.

Considering he is the most decent, honest and honourable man in the game though surely he could just walk away like he did at Coventry? I think we all.know why that won't happen though.

What a dull journey.

We have at least another 18 months of Mowbray.

I'm sure they would love to do all of the above (apart from number 7). I bet we'll still be talking about it in 10 years though.

Summer 2021 will mark nearly 4 and half years in charge for Mowbray, and look at the state of that centre half list. Crazy that we'll be going into yet another summer with one half decent CH, one that will probably play one in six games, one that will be out until the new year, and two lads who have less than 5 starts between them. So, as the previous 3 summers we will need two new centre halves, a left back and a central midfielder as a bare minimum. And that is depending on the players we want to sign new contracts signing, and not losing Armstrong. No chance he suddenly starts playing 3 at the back either. There's a lot to do in the summer (again).

I'm not sure about that, Derby finished 6th the season before he joined with 75 points. In Lampard's full season in charge they finished 6th again but on 74 points. No improvement at all. Like you said I think he would be lucky to get the Bournemouth job, and if I was in charge there I don't think he would be my first choice.

That's because one cost £7m and the other didn't.

Nyambe, JRC & Rothwell have to be tied down for me. I'd be really disappointed if we renewed Evans, Bennett, Williams & Bell. It was time to move on from that bunch 18 months ago.

I actually think Ayala is a really good defender for this level, if he was 100% fit he would make a huge difference to us. If you could get him fit I'd even make him captain due to him always talking, the passion he showed when we scored them late winners against Milwall & Rotherham etc. Ultimately though he will end up being a waste of time because he can't stay fit, and that's on Mowbray and the team for not doing there due diligence on him properly, not the fans who wanted him in because he looked a good signing on paper.

Rothwell starts over BB for me, hasn't looked right since he came back from injury to me.

Strange viewpoint this, I can't understand where you are getting it from. He'll still be here in 52 weeks, regardless of results.

I'd probably agree with this, apart from maybe Johnson. Sneaky feeling Bennett gets another 12 months though.

Game on Sky, could be a last ditch attempt from him to get his prem move in this window so I expect to see him shooting on sight at every opportunity and hoping a couple fly in.

Armstrong would be nuts to sign anything long term with us at the moment, unless there is a £10-15 million release clause or something.

John Buckley will go the same way as Paul Gallagher IMO. Obvious technical ability Will hang around here for a while Never play consistently in a nailed down position to make his own Drift off into league one when he's around 26/27 End up having a half decent Championship career without ever really pulling up any trees.

Like others have said, I first started to have serious reservations about him during that horror run in 2019 when we lost 9 out of 11 games, I think that stands as our worst run of form since the war? I did initially think after that though that maybe we should give him the benefit of the doubt going into the next season, then we sold our keeper to buy Gallagher, and didn't seem to have any plan in place for a replacement GK at all. Then we lined up against Charlton at Ewood on the opening day of the season, Rothwell who was our stand out player in the last 6 games or so of the season before was left on the bench to accommodate his mate Downing, Nyambe was left out to accommodate Bennett, Gallagher started over our player of the season from the year before Danny Graham, Mulgrew started in defence as captain despite Mowbray slating him the year before and saying "defenders were coming" (they weren't). We didn't see him again in the first team until the end of June. To cap it off, we were losing 2-1 in one of the worst opening day performances I have ever seen with 10 minutes left and one sub remaining, he then decides to leave his £7 million man on the bench who was on the back of a really good pre season where he had managed to score a few goals, and bought on John Buckley instead! Ever since then I have thought Mowbray just isn't going to get this club above lower/mid table in this league, and I haven't seen anything in the 18 months since to change my mind.

Two questions... 1, Why would Celtic want Mowbray back? 2, Do you feel daft for suggesting that we'll finish in the top two after we lost to Watford?