First day of the League 1 season… ‘Steve Waggott get out of our club’ from a few hundred in NO1, with a response of ‘shut up yer dicks, get behind ‘em FFS’, will be about as far as any mutiny goes.

Oxford getting promoted would probably mean we wouldn’t ‘win’ that particular accolade - another Venky-era milestone .

I would say so, something else that has boomed across football in recent years, we’ve seen that with our own away followings … alas not our home crowds.

The sad thing is Swag is pushing an open door with a fair percentage of the fanbase who totally agree that we are lucky to have such fantastic owners.

It’s just weird. Do you think the PNE awards night start with ‘you do all know the Hemmings family are marvellous’, United with ‘long live the Glazers’ or Chelsea ‘Todd Bohely is the man’, just bizarre over-compensating.

Our average gate this season is around 15k, comparable to a few other seasons since 2012, but nothing to write home about as pretty much every other club has considerably increased their crowds in that time. However, next season certainly will see a substantial drop. Treading water, then a drop, then a slog back to this still piss poor level is as good as it gets until the owners feck off.

Asking fans to ‘send him pictures’ of the shit tip that is Ewood - how about you or your staff get off your arses and have a look yourselves.

‘The Owners’= Suhail is always my rule of thumb.

Cheap STs this time would just about keep us treading water… but if they actually have the brass neck to raise prices (which the FF minutes is hinting at), then Christ, it’s going to be calamitous - but let’s look at it from their point of view, think of the back of a fag packet arbitrary targets they have to hit!

Will he meet the adds on before being flogged off in 18 months? Who knows. It was a piss poor price for one of the best young players in England, and it would’ve been considerably higher in a years time… but of course none of it particularly matters as the side won’t see any of it regardless, but it does ‘help the owners’ in not needing to fund their own business, so hooray!

Indeed tomphil, tenner tickets are great to chuck in a couple of times a season - but cheap STs is what drives consistently higher crowds as you have the fan in the tent throughout not just dipping in for a game or two.

There won’t ever be one, but if we were left with an empty ground, what would it change? We’ve gone from c20,000 ST holders when they bought the club to probably c6/7,000 next season, so 13,000 lost fans, sponsorship and gate receipts have collapsed, they haven’t batted an eyelid. So why would losing an another 6k ST holders bother them? They couldn’t give a flying fuck.

Didn’t say we would have got 40/50, course not. But 18, they had our pants down - and why wouldn’t they, we were a distressed seller.

£18 million and yes - Palace will be selling him for £40/£50 million in 18 months.

What happened to working at Hearts? Bit of a comedown Barrow for such an astute lad, invented the ‘double pivot’, didn’t he?

Well they took the ‘wrong’ price for AW as soon as they could so who knows what price they’ll be happy with to bundle Sammy out the door…

To be fair to you, Chadster there’s certainly no arguments from your side these days that the commercial side of this club is anything but ridiculously poor.

Can’t believe that Joe fella who used to post on here got a job in football and you still haven’t!

Bolton ‘don’t know what league they are going to be in’ either … but they’ve still been on sale since February and they’ve sold 16,000 already.

Most round me were all ‘see you next season’, as was my father in law who comes over from Lytham and he has wavered in the past. Obviously this place we are forensic observers of the club and aghast with it all, but there probably won’t be mass non renewals as many just want to watch a game every fortnight and will just renew out of habit - the owners/‘leaders’ of this club are bloody lucky the majority of football fans are like that as they certainly don’t deserve such loyalty.

So the ‘how not to be an exec’ module of his MBA.

End of the day a lot of footballers are immature lads who’ve been coddled through the academy system (again in contrast to Sammy who’s scrapped his way up the leagues). Mogga would have the balance right behind the scenes you’d wager between giving them leeway and an arm round, and when it’s time to get in line. Then there’s JDT who seemingly had standards that were too high for this bunch of weak mediocrities, so rebelled against it as soon as they could - whereas this new fella doesn’t seem exude much in the way of presence or authority.

Obviously Sammie just cracks on and gives his all regardless of ‘the noise’ but interesting that he alludes to the ‘negativity’ of journalists, we only really have one that reports on Rovers and he’s not exactly The Sun going after ‘Turnip Taylor’ c1993. If young Elliot is seen as some negative force it gives further insights to their mindset behind the scenes and just shows how weak and unwilling to face any kind of criticism this crop of players are (which we know already from their comments in ‘the meeting’, oh, and their performances).

Proposing ‘crowd funding’ standard stadium works, I.e seating. The brass neck of them.

But think of all the lovely savings on cleaning and maintenance, the fact you could lose long standing ST holders will be an afterthought, just like it was with the Darwen End and Blackburn End Upper closures.