I would say football fandom has changed this past 5 years or so. Along with the clamour for safe standing, there has been a move to ultra areas, so I think we could get a decent group together with a bit of organisation.

If Huddersfield bloody Town can muster a 1,000 singers, we must be able to!

Difference is a lot of other clubs have embraced those ‘giving it large’ groups and helped create ‘ultras’ sections if you want to call them that. Boro are a good example, they moved away fans to a corner of a side stand and promoted the old away end as a singing section with all the banners and flags. As usual, we just let these things wither on the vine.

And Michael Owen etc. Problem is they all largely played in a front two, the game has now changed and few teams do. So you just won’t see as many little strikers as you once did. Edit - Great minds islander!

Bit of a red herring calling it a UEFA regulation, as it is only the UK and Montenegro (!) that has a blackout. It goes back to a Bob Lord proposal in the 1960s which was backed by the Football League.

A load of young fans drop off at that point when parents stop paying for their ST. An incremental rise in price, like the Forest example would help keep those fans in the tent. Cue Rev’s entrance - “18 year olds are able to get tanked up at the weekend, so feck ‘em make them pay £200-£300!”

Little in stature but what a presence! He drove that promotion team on with his will to win. Kicking Newcastle players in that bounce ball, to giving their fans abuse in the Darwen End to booting the ball out the ground at Tranmere, hat trick at Plymouth to save the season, bringing us back from the dead in the play off semi, to ‘winning’ THAT penalty. All in 9 months! Legend.

Because their chairman’s code has been cracked on Twitter. Something to do with if he likes a post of a fan he’s signing for that club, or is it if he doesn’t like it, I forget?

Forest, who’ve sold record amounts of season tickets, have done this for young fans: ‘In a move to make top-class football in Nottingham more affordable for young fans... season cards for 4-11-year-olds will be just £10 – a £15 reduction from the current campaign. This will include entry into the young fans membership scheme, giving supporters exclusive access to a series of special events. Prices for 12-17-year-olds will be just £50 – a £100 reduction on this season. The club are also introducing a new price band that will cover 18-23-year-olds. Priced at just £100 for the season, this will represent a £150 to £230 reduction for supporters depending on their age.’ In comparison, Rovers: 0-11: £60-£75 12-17: £90-£110 18-21: £195-£299

Why? Doesn’t do the Selhurst Park atmosphere any harm having them in the home end. Doesnt matter where it is, you just need enough people. The 100 or so that remained singing in the Darwen End just didn’t have the numbers - plus as an aside they stood as far away from the away fans as possible, in front of the Radio Rovers studio which I never got.

It’s a problem you see with many allocated seating ‘ends’ in the era of all seater stadiums. If I look around the Blackburn End, many of the faces are the same from when it was opened in 1994. Some of them would have been singers once, but they’ve got older and out of the habit. But as folk have their allocated seats, any potential singers are scattered about. The club should be encouraging a proper singing area, be it in a block of the main end - like Crystal Palace. Or a seperate stand - like Huddersfield, like Bristol City, in fact lots of clubs seem to be doing it - flags, banners etc. Looks and sounds great. I get why the Darwen End was shut to home fans, but just unilaterally doing it with no consultation meant a proper singing section couldn’t get going for this season as fans just made their own arrangements. But for the future I don’t see why one can’t get off the ground, just needs some proper organisation on both sides.

Yes, on sale for their fans barry . Doesn’t mean they’ve sent our allocation over. Some clubs have their tickets on sale for a good month prior the game, again doesn’t mean the away team have had their allocation sent to them at that stage. As soon as Rovers have the tickets they’ll be on sale, simple as that really.

Because they won’t have received them yet! Rovers have them on sale 3 weeks in advance as standard, so it will be Hull’s issue. I get on the club’s back when warranted, but this won’t be Rovers’ doing.

Indeed it was, but didn’t we hear plenty about how that ‘football town’ would pack t’Turf if they ever got there?

Who needs to do their job? Hull’s ticket office?

Tough system this.

Don't tell a Rovers supporitng Brigger that they should play for PNE!

What about Chorley and Bamber Bridge lads?

Yeah that's deifintely Kidder Street

Few lads I know from the Darwen End have relocated to the Blackburn End.

94/95 only one I can remember...

Nicely sums up the shambolic pre seasons of the Venky era...

We at 10? Thought it was 9k? Only a few hundred up from the third division.

More and more of our fans have moved away from the BB1/2/3 etc area in recent years and midweek matches are always a mad rush for such folk. As well as many local residents as Hasta pointed out on another thread. I'd expect midweek attendances to fall off a cliff, especially when it becomes the norm. Very shortsighted of the 'EFL', but what else can you expect from that shambolic organisation...

It’s a thread about the kit, people are giving their opinion on the kit. We might as well lock all non player related threads then....