It’s the same thing it’s just worded slightly differently. Rovers have a contractual obligation to pay their players the weekly wage agreed for the duration of their contracts. Players hold all the cards, if they don’t want to leave (for whatever reason - don’t like the move, don’t want to go abroad, think they can get a better deal with a different club, want to go on a free) then Rovers need to find a way to encourage that deal to go through. They can’t just pay a boat load of money to someone for no reason, so they pay off their contract… which is exactly the same as someone moving for less money i.e. Ben, you’re doubling your wages to move to Sevilla. On top of that, Rovers will pay you a ‘loyalty bonus’ of 5K / week for the duration of your contract, which is half the 10K a week you’ll earn if you stay. That’s 260K from the transfer fee to accept the Seville deal.

Great, so let’s carry it on. He scores 20 goals and Rovers finish 9th. He leaves in summer on a free and joins Leeds on 50K a week. Ben will earn more money over the length of his contract, despite rejecting 30K a week in Seville. Leeds get a striker on a free transfer. Rovers have to now sign a replacement but don’t have the money to play with that they would have if he had joined Sevilla.

Example… and again, this is all a HYPOTHETICAL scenario which nobody can accurately portray because we’re fans on a forum not involved in any of this: Rovers get a 20M bid for Brereton from Seville. They want to keep Brereton, but he isn’t signing a new deal. Brereton isn’t in a rush to go to Seville, he’s playing well for Rovers, has a new born on the way, his missus doesn’t like the sound of Spain and he only has 12 months on his deal. JDT and GB decide to replace BBD they will need to spend 6M and have the players lined up. Forest will get their 10%, so Rovers stand to replace Brereton and gain 12M quid if the transfer goes through. If Ben holds firm and says “I’m not in a rush to go to Seville, they’re only offering me 30K a week, I’ll see what’s available next year when my deal runs out, I think I can do better.” How much of that 12M quid are you willing to give back to Ben for him to leave? 2M? 4M? 6M?

This is nonsense. I’m telling you this happens in every transfer because I’ve seen it with my own eyes in minor transfers. I have seen someone be paid over 200K to leave a football club on a transfer and sign for a UK team. He was entitled to more because of his wages and contract duration, but wanted to come home.

OK, next time you’re going on holiday buy the book “Done Deal” by Daniel Geey and read it on the beach. You’re right, it’s in the most part not the whole rest of their contract. As I said in the original post, it’s storytelling. But as a basic point, if BBD is on a 40K, 4 year deal here then moves to let’s say Seville on a 50K, 4 year deal, he will be entitled to a huge payment (call it a loyalty bonus, call it wages, call it whatever you want) to leave. If we’re being very technical I would suspect a buyout in a contract like Gav originally suggested would have a caveat saying something like “if the player choses to leave when the buyout fee is activated then he waives the right to his loyalty bonus”. They do move for less money elsewhere if a negotiation happens, but if there’s no negotiation eg a club refuse to accept an offer because it would cost them money they hold on and hope for the China/MLS move. See Bale, Ramsey, Oscar.

Because that’s what he’s owed? That happens on almost every transfer. As I said, it’s storytelling, you would in reality try and reach a settlement. But he would get a lot of dough if he was on 40K a week. See United trying to sign De Jong. You only don’t pay if a transfer request is handed in which waives the right to a fee i.e. the player wants to go. Trust me, I have footballers in the family that like transferring often because of this. They also all get between 4K and 8K regardless from the PFA for every transfer to help with storage and moving fees, which is great if you move to a local club. See above. I don’t think we have any choice but to sell him now, which is why every time JDT mentions him he’s drumming up interest.

Brilliant. Here’s what happens next, alongside some story telling… He signs a new 4-year contract on 40K a week with a 17M release fee. His contract is now worth £8,320,00. He scores 10 goals by 20th Jan. Leeds are in the bottom three, 5 points from safety and Bamford gets injured. They immediately offer us the 17M and Ben goes. We pay off his contract that we owe him and are left with 7.5M, of which Forest take their 10%. We now have 6.75M and Ben stands us at a loss in FFP, so we can’t sign a replacement. Rovers pick up 4 points from 27 relying on Markanday to replace Ben. Furious, JDT walks. We hire Mowbray to steady the ship.

Across all competitions, totally speculatively…. Hedges - 5 Gallagher - 10 Dolan - 3 Vale - 2

He’s scored 1 of the 4 goals we’ve scored so far this season?

He’s still blocked got me on Twitter for saying that was a poor judgement of character!

I reckon this goes one of two days. 1) Deadline day loan move to like Huddersfield 2) JDT gets Dack so pissed off that he isn’t playing he becomes the pre-ACL Dack.

I’m sad enough to look through every players post on Instagram… Dack hasn’t liked or posted on any of them. Trav has liked and posted on every players post.

LETS GO K-MOD!

JDT has just completed a masterclass that Mowbray couldn’t suss out during his “possession” era of Elliott, Arma etc. Sit back, keep your shape, absorb pressure, catch them on the counter, jump on mistakes.

There’s a things where if we don’t punish people for posting streams were seen as a pro-illegal streaming website. But it seems tweets are exempt.

I’m told I am allowed to let you embed links to tweets, therefore… Great goal Sammie!

Don’t try and talk sense to him, Longers, it doesn’t end well

Looking into it, but try logging out and back in for now?

Should be sorted for you now.

Get van Hecke now. Offer 3M quid, put him on the 15K a week that Ayala is on and tell Brighton we know its a low fee, but they can buy him back at any time for 12.5M. Call it an extended loan.

You shouldn't be able to, I've no idea how you did it frankly...

47er somehow managed to delete the thread. I’m trying to bring it back. side note, I was very clear that WDWY shouldn’t spill out into ICBINF. Those that have are now banned.

If this happens, next time I spot you at a game I’m going to walk over and kiss your forehead.

Very brave decision to sign another No10 at Rovers.

Hero.