Of course Waggott’s happy with it. Money for old rope. Regarding the league position, the inevitable descent is underway. Will we finish 9th? Highly unlikely. The bottom half beckons, but hopefully the surprisingly good start will keep us away from trouble, (not guaranteed). Re - the chanting, I would imagine a large percentage of our ever shrinking home support are the “What do we want? Mediocrity. When do we want it? Now! “ brigade, who will no doubt shortly be taking to Facebook and Twitter to tell us how grateful we should be. Chanting would be futile, anyway. A vote with the feet sends the strongest message. Waggott will be delighted with the turn out of fans of a club he previously stole a living from. Anyway, enjoy the Kool Aid.

A competent CEO needs to be appointed, then let him / her appoint a manager and have said manager report directly to the CEO. I agree that a decent manager would soon tire of having to deal directly with ignorant , India based owners.

If they haven’t done that after more than a decade, what chance they ever will?

I’m in Hull, but that’s not important right now. I wasn’t posting it because I think there is more chance that Elvis is living on the Moon, than us challenging for the Play Offs under this regime.

….. Exhibit ‘A’ of acceptance of dumbed down expectations.

Yes, it all feels a bit deja vu. I'm amazed at the start, and long may it continue, but it is still very early days. The test will come when we hit a little sticky patch, which is inevitable at some point. That must not be allowed to degenerate into a trademark death spiral.

This sounds promising, and you are right to keep shtum until any news comes out via the club. It's inevitable that people will speculate, though, especially when there are signals that something is brewing.

That will probably only be an option if you don't have an East Lancs postcode.

Yeah, let’s continue the journey with Mowbray as it’ll benefit a few of his best mates and provide valuable playing time for youngsters of Premier League clubs. Let’s face it, even if and when our hopeless owners sack him, their lackeys will scour Jurassic Park for the next terrible appointment, (who will make the likes of Hughton look like a new kid on the block). Catch 22.

I’m not so sure about that. Mowbray is on record as telling the centre back from Charlton we were chasing, (a couple of years ago), that he wouldn’t be going straight into contention for the first team . ‘Personality’ of the manager being a factor I can agree with.

The meek acceptance of a total lack of ambition is one of the reasons why I can no longer relate to the club. Been said many a time before, but even in the 80s, when we didn’t have a pot to p*ss in, we still had ambition.

Wrong thread really, but whilst I certainly agree about the structure, I don’t agree about Mowbray. He has been pretty well backed until this Summer, and I would argue he is partly to blame for the situation we are now in. He only got the job due to the ignorance of the owners, (didn’t Chesterfield say “No thanks” shortly before we gave him the gig?), and at the vast majority of clubs he would’ve been long gone. Mowbray has done very well out of Venkys and Rovers. It’s because of the structure , (ie lack of a competent CEO), he’s here, and for the same reason he’s been allowed to long outstay his welcome. Some of his comments towards the end of last season were beyond ridiculous, but still he survived. But I agree that things will never change under these owners.

Yeah, I get that, but was just wondering if that’s always been the case.

Surely the match mentioned from 1967 wasn’t U23’s looking at the team?

Was the Lancashire Senior Cup a bit like the Manx Cup of a later era, ie a glorified pre-season friendly competition?

Which glosses over the fact that a complete donkey was given the shirt ahead of him., week in week out. That wasn’t King’s choice, and he did well enough at Bournemouth, (where he was played in the correct position).

Whilst King's injury record wasn't great, I too would be demotivated by being understudy to Chris Brown, with occasional starts out of position on the wing.

They really are not, and that is obvious. It's about as genuine as "Dacky's personal message" to non renewing season ticket holders. A bit off toffee thrown for the benefit of the gullible. In this modern age, how about a video message? Now that would at least be genuine, if not necessarily sincere.

Agreed. Surely no-one is naive enough to believe that Balaji Rao wrote that? Obviously Waggott's words, endorsed by Venkys.

They’re still there? 😂

Leeds fans get a discount if they order four pre-season games as a job lot, (£12.99 for all four).

Wouldn’t be a surprise if Leeds fans have bought tickets for the home ends.

Can you blame him? With everything that's going on it will be a miracle if we're not soon in trouble.

I would happily take Bradford’s manager over ours. Must have something about you if you can get a minnow like Morecambe promoted.

A different opinion on how to do things can be healthy, providing it's constructive and the manager and assistant are both competent, eg Clough and Taylor. Unfortunately, we have dumb and dumber.