That was the same number that called me last week. Told the young lady that I would not be renewing my ST if Mowbray was still in charge next season. If he isn't potted this week, I honestly cannot see us gaining another point and relegation looms.

They are probably making the calls in alphabetical order as my surname begins with B.

Don't know if this is the right thread to post this comment, but here goes. I have just had a telephone call from the club, a young lady asking how I was. She said they were contacting all season ticket holders to ask how they were. I told her that I had watched every game this season on iFollow and she asked if I had enjoyed them. Needless to say, I told her that the football was, for the most part, dreadful to watch and that in my opinion this was all down to the manager's tactics. She said that many of the people she had contacted had said the same thing. Although she did not ask if I would be renewing my ST, I volunteered the comment tnat having been a season ticket holder for 58 years, I would not be renewing if Mowbray was still in charge, as I would not be prepared to watch turgid football week in week out. I can only hope that if enough ST holders say the same as I have, maybe the message will get back to the owners. We can only hope, but I am not holding my breath.....interestingly, she said she had not watched any of the games this season which leads me to suspect that she is employed by a PR company to make all the right noises. A desperate throw of the dice by SW?

This sums up exactlyhow I feel. I am in my 70th year, have had a season ticket since 1967 and have supported my club through thick and thin (and believe me there have been some bad times). However, I have never felt more depressed than I do today. I'm not one of those who think the club has a divine right to be in the top division, but as a fan, I feel I do have the right to see my team play with purpose and passion and with definite gameplans. To my mind, the players we have now ought to be good enough to be challenging for a play off spot. The problem is that they are completely lacking in guidance and proper coaching, and as a result, teams like Rotherham, Coventry, Preston and Barnsley can nullify us with little or no effort. Others have commented time and again about the folly of having your centre forward on the wing, your best midfield player (Rothwell) playing out wide when he should patently be in the centre of midfield. I just wish that Mowbray would read this MB and listen to long suffering fans like me, in despair at the current situation. It's no good saying he will go when the owners tell him to, because he is fully aware that the owners know little about football and even less about what the position of manager entails. Managers live and die by results and if Mowbray had an ounceof decency he would resign tomorrow, or at the very least as k for a structured leaving by mutual arrangement like Neil Lennon. If he remains as manager at the start of next season, then for the first time in 54 years I will not renew my season ticket.

Nothing wrong in my opinion with loaning a good quality PL keeper. After all, it worked for Sheffield United didn't it?

Bloody annoying.I've been looking forward to this all week.

Some great memories of SMC in this thread. I was there 61 to 69, Toss Kennedy was my form teacher and a great guy.

I agree with you, Joe. I started using Car Park H two years ago when I began bringing my wheelchair bound brother to the games. To my mind ten minutes should be sufficient to allow most pedestrians to get away from the stadium. The twenty minutes delay causes frustration. I also agree that there should be staff on duty in the carpark and that there should be a one way system in place to avoid the free for all when the gates do eventually open. One further point-it is all very well opening the bus lane to enable right turns, but the guy operating the traffic lights (operating the box opposite the Empire) does not allow more than a few vehicles at a time to exit. I wonder if he knows the amount of cars trying to exit the car park and the effect he can have on traffic flow? Some joined up thinking is required to provide more coordination.?

Same here, 55 years since my first game, time marches on.

This is the problem. The manager is untouchable because of the management structure at the club. Waggott is not going to sack the man who hired him.

A bit unfair on Rothwell and Graham, given that they have only started a couple of games this season. Rothwell in particular needs a run of games, not just twenty minutes every now and then as a sub.

After eleven games last season, we had 15 points. This season we have 14 points after eleven games. Progress? Arguably, we have better players this season, but they are not being used properly or played in their correct positions-or they are not inspired by the manager. As many have said previously, we are grateful to TM for turning the club's fortunes around, but all managers have a shelf life and TM has reached his sell by date.

Apart from the first ten minutes, we completely outplayed and outmuscled a rather lightweight Spurs side. I agree Samuel was impressive, but in my opinion Brad Lyons was the outstanding player-he ran the second half , playing some incisive passes. Davenport was steady if unspectacular, and keeps a cool head in the DM position. Defence was largely untroubled, though when called upon, Hilton made a couple of decent saves. A thoroughly enjoyable performance.

I agree with these sentiments, but how do the EFL weed out the "nefarious" individuals. Ken Anderson probably passed the fit and proper person test which suggests that the problem lies with the depth of investigation carried out by the EFL. Because of the amount of money surrounding football, there will always be chancers willing to take risks, and at the end of the day, it's the fans of the clubs who suffer. Local rivalry aside, it would be a tragedy if Bolton were to be expelled-we are a club of similar size and history and the same could easily happen to us. On the issue of expungement affecting play off positions, the EFL could avoid the problem (if they chose to expel) by making the decision after the season ends, thus taking advantage of Rule 12.2.2 as quoted by Philip above. Their record would not be expunged until the play off positions had been fairly determined. Only two clubs would be relegated to L1

How is Rodwell going to attain match fitness? I went to the development squad game last Friday, hoping that he might be included. The lads could have done with his experience. If it is correct that he played in one or two pre-season games for Watford, he should surely not be that far away from match fitness. Wonder if TM will arrange a behind closed doors game during the international break-that would surely be better than any amount of training? Perhaps he could be included in the next development squad fixture.

If true, I can understand the lad's frustration. I was surprised he was not in the squad for Bristol-we could have done with his drive and energy in what was a rather lethargic performance by most of the players.

Excellent and thought provoking article by a Forest fan on the sale of Brereton. The Forest owners seem to be banking on purchasing established players to gain promotion, rather like Derby County and Villa to a certain extent. This approach means that there is no room in the short term for youth team players to break through. The lure of Premiership millions leads to clubs gambling and possibly ignoring FFP rules. It worked for Wolves. I think Mowbray's approach is to build a side capable of pushing for promotion on solid foundations, hungry young players and team spirit. www.seatpitch.co.uk/2018/08/28/high-stakes-unpicking-the-sale-of-ben-brereton/

I felt that we desperately lacked width, too often trying to pass our way through the centre of a packed defence. Without natural wingers, the full backs have to get forward and supply crosses. Bell looked to be lacking in confidence, although on the occasions he did run with the ball, he ran infield. Nyambe was outstanding but again, did not supply any crosses. We need at least one winger, or the coaching staff need to work with the full backs on their role when they get in the final third.