"quality passing side" LOL!!!

Not while he's here i'm afraid. it will take another manager to let them off the leash. We are going nowhere with this bloke.

Eh? If you're blaming the scouting then its strange that it should be so bad!

Looks like Mowbray has decided that if it works---change it!

He'll be included when he shouldn't be because he cost £7M! Embarassing for the club. One of the strangest transfers in our history but let's give him time eh? Just like Mowbray!

But surely the solution is not just "drop Graham"?!!! I can't believe TM can't see farther than that. I don't suppose Graham would be at all annoyed if he got the ball on the floor for a change! I reckon the dressing room atmosphere which TM sets such stall by is non-existent now.

Its had a detrimental effect on Dack too.

Love that central four. TM dare not play it though, having assessed the the problems posed by the other team.

That's a very significant criticism. I am dreading the rest of the season personally.

Was asked who I wanted and Hughes was it. I know he's not coming back and I'm on the record as expecting Johnno to be TM's successor.

You are making excuses. Of course every season is different, you can't simply start every season with a clean slate. Every manager has history but I see this manager repeating his history and making the same mistakes. You say "give him a dozen games". Venkys surely will but will you come up with new excuses at the end of it?

Hughes but I realise I'm unlikely to ever see that.

17 points from 19 games.....

The only consistent feature of my entire life!!!

Very odd what's happening with Chapman. Heralded as a great signing at the time and never seen seen since.

The tooth fairy maybe....

A deliberate plan to build confidence in the players I was told on here!

We sold Raya who was our player, we had all the close season to find a solid replacement and we've ended up with a keeper on a one year loan who, at the moment at least, is unconvincing. And we have the same back-up as before. Does anything sum up the confusion and inadequacy around the club than that?

I'm the last poster to refer to Johnno but I never said I wanted him. What I, and others, have said is, that if Venkys sack TM they will most likely turn to Johnno as its their preferred route. Whether he would make a success of it or not is unknown which is normal for Venkys. However I would prefer him to get the chance than see the typical hopeless left-field Venky appointment. I won't depress everyone with the list. I'd say that's a common reaction. If Venkys had a good track record with managers the cries for sacking Mowbray would be overwhelming. What prevents revolt is the fear about what idiot would replace him.

What Mowbray is doing is repeating the performance he put in at other clubs and for which they sacked him. Failure to setup the defence was a major part of his demise as he has admitted, made worse by endless tinkering with positions. If a Director of Football was a good one and allowed Mowbray to do what's he's best at( though I'm struggling to define what that might be) it could be a beneficial move. However its more likely we'll see Mowbray struggling on to his inevitable crisis and the sack. What comes next should worry us all but I'd bet on Johnno and hope that will work out.

Our games are only exciting for the opposition!

Its not about 2 games!! 17 points from 19 games as said above. Its about not creating chances (though I disagree we haven't created any). We had 2 clear ones last week but missed them both. That's another problem, neither Brereton nor Gallagher are big scorers, Who's going to get the goals? Its also about a poor defence letting soft goals in and a manager who acknowledges the problem but has never made it a priority.

If that's the plan----its a rotten plan! I think "plan" overstates it though.

Rovers have a policy when players reach 30 as well----we.sign them! Or give them a contract extension.

Yep, heaps of optimism, not much foundation.