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It’s definitely just his senior debut - relevant paragraph, table + definition of youth player below:

Assuming I’m right about this, we could still give him those 30 seconds now. Whether the conversion paperwork would then happen quick enough for us to re-use his ESC place this window is anyone’s guess.

Adam And The Ants - Stand And Deliver

My thoughts were based on Venkys being the real owners and the agents taking advantage of how stupid they are. Many other theories are available.

Money left in the club would be swallowed up by the club’s losses. Money taken out the club would add to the club’s loss but be in their pocket(s).

Did we have any left footed CBs in 94 - 95? I don’t think we did.

To make people richer (by taking advantage of rich idiots).

Moves the money from inside the club to outside the club. 🧐🤔

I’ll ask this here as I can’t be bothered finding the correct thread for it… To what date are our fixtures now ‘set in stone’? I’m thinking of attending a match (first one since the Oxford promotion one!) but my wife would need to make a rota request so I can have our car for the day. Ta in advance.

If we are I’m blaming you 😁

That’s very kind of you to say so, thank you. 👍 I hope, if my interpretation is right, that the club is aware - I fear that they wouldn’t be.

We could do a leaving early version of that. Perhaps the Riverside could lead the way. 😁

What powers, if any, does he have?

I’ve read the rules a few times and checked and re-checked all the relevant definitions* - I’m not seeing why this wouldn’t work. Maybe I’m missing something 🤷‍♂️. * eg we’re definitely his ‘current club’ and he’s definitely a ‘youth player’

Just to add, if my theory is right, Mafoumbi could reach the 15 points too - all we’d need to do is give him a league minute.. 10 for playing for a band 2 club (needs to be named in a matchday squad). 5 as a youth player making his senior debut (needs to get on the pitch). It can’t be that simple, can it…

Looking at the criteria again (re Miyoshi) has made me wonder if Toth can/will qualify in January under the points system: 10 points for being at a Band 2 club leaves 5 needed to reach the requisite 15. 5 points are given for playing 40-49% of available minutes (league only, band 2) in the previous twelve months. League matches in 2025 (if I’ve added up right) = 47 of which Toth has played 100% of 7 of those to date. Again (and if my maths is right!) he needs to play the equivalent of 12 full league matches out of the remaining 24 this calendar year. Does that rambling make sense?? 😁😁 The same method might work for Kargbo too but he’s currently on fewer minutes than Toth and looks likely to play fewer than him (for now at least) too.

Agreed - although in this case it’s the main GBE criteria which has the following issue. The category ‘League Quality of Player’s current club’ doesn’t set out at what date/point this changes in the case of promotion/ relegation. I’m as certain as I can be that whether he plays today or not is irrelevant - I’ve no clue as to whether the game ‘happening’ (ie his club’s season starting) is the trigger for his points reduction.

I think that’s wrong as his club is no longer Bundesliga - of course it could be me who’s wrong.

I’ve seen that but from looking at the rules I don’t see why: He gets the higher of his appearance points for Bundesliga vs Bundesliga 2 so he can’t lose out there (by playing today). The other points I mentioned are for the league his club are currently in - surely he either gets the Bundesliga 2 points or he gets none at all.

I don’t think it matters either way. I think he’s on 13 points, 7 for his Bundesliga minutes last year and 6 for his club now being in Bundesliga 2. This would make him an exceptions panel case. I’ve no idea how often these result in a yes instead of a no.

I think we should play our full strength team (whatever that is!) it’s only the second game of the season we need to integrate the new players 5 subs means plenty can be rested once (if) the game is won

I’ll either be right or pleasantly surprised.

I’ll go with: No extensions, some options taking up, others not.

I guess the key is finding a way to turn the pressure up to the point they see opening the books as their best option.

Remove Pasha first the Venkys second and then (if still felt necessary) have the inquest. For now, all attention must be focussed on getting these people out of our club.