And we are owned by a company that was raided by Indian tax authorities over 'cash'. There was all sorts of things a foot in the early years we know that for a fact but since it calmed down i think their accountants found another use for club ownership within their empire. Hence the happiness the lose 10/20 million a year, which is the ball park figures they talked about chucking the club per season anyway over transfer windows. That money instead of buying/leasing Prem players like at first planned has since been used to fund the loses in the Championship. Seems it was always intended to be spare cash to use anyway although maybe not the eye watering amounts it became for a while. It's more under control now that's why they aren't bothered about water treading projects and journeys. For me though there will always be something at the heart of all this that isn't what it seems although we can probably say that about many football clubs.

How much actual scouting was done on that lad i wonder beyond just looking at stats ?

Something goes on here i don't care what anybody, accountant or otherwise says. Because unless they have direct access to the payrolls and accounts then nobody actually knows except those operating it. I don't think it's criminal at all but more like taking advantage of corporate loopholes to gain some sort of advantage be in tax/movement of money or investing it elsewhere. There is reasons so many foreign entities and even British ones are happy to pour so much money through the books of UK football clubs. This country is well known for all its banking. laundering and loopholes it's the dirtiest place in Europe for that. Just look at the City of London Corporation ! Even if not they are still funding Akon through VLL to the tune of a good few million. Who knows what else the money they put into the club loses funds as well.

To us no but he was a 23/24 year old forward who was on the books of a decent at the time Prem side having not long before been awarded a new deal by them. He had been loaned here for a successful spell and loaned to Brum so Saints would've covered their money by loaning him again. He was on c24 grand a week according to Nixon and his fee was 3 million with add ons to 5 million, he took a pay cut to come but probably a nice signing on fee. That is not dear at all by the crazy standards of football and whilst we shouldn't have made that commitment the biggest crime here yet again is Mowbray. Doing that to get a guy he had no real idea what he was going to do with him but then shoving him on the wing etc. Complete and utter waste of the attributes he did have, he was never going to be Shearer but he should be twice the player he looks now.

Sick of saying it but the one who needs calling out and always has is the shady man in the middle instead of his nodding dog.

Glen just didn't drink the coffee this time that's all.

That's why it isn't all about money it's how you spend it and to be fair in the general scheme of things neither are over priced at all. Those are the going rates for these players we just should have put that money elsewhere but those spending it aren't following a real football plan. Any team in this league that doesn't have parachute money but spends 16 million combined on 4 or 5 players, has a 3 million quid a year academy turning out decent young talent plus pays good wages to players like Ayala/ Kaminsky/Dack, good loaness..... the fans have a right to expect to be competitive.

It isn't all about big money as this clearly shows, however even if you want to use it as the biggest factor... When we've started games with BBD, Gally, Smodz. Hyam and Brittain you're looking at around 16 million worth of signings there. So we've every right to be competing for the top 6 imo.

The comparisons completely fell apart at the 'player trading' bit.

Not when we've waited a decade to even have the remotest of chances. Last season and this the spots 2-6 are wide open to at least have a go at it and hang in there before the pecking order dictates the best funded clubs nab them.

Iv'e no doubt he's ambitious and has good ideas but i also think once hes been here a while. He'll fall into the comfort zone of the rest of them when hes sussed it all out and realised just do enough and that's enough. Then he'll be off somewhere else when the opportunity arises.

The reason he's up for loan is because hes been looked at in that position and isn't up to it i'm surprised anyone is even questioning that. As a squad player i'm surprised he hasn't had more of a chance in his natural midfield position.

First home game after relegation when Mowbray turned out one of his ultra confusing teams the crowd left everybody in no uncertain terms to pull their fingers out. But yeah since that day TMs working class back streets of Boro kicking a ball about drivvel had most convinced enough to stay off his back. Ewood though unlike some other gaffs usually votes with its feet well before its voice but we have a set of people running it who don't care about that.

Tidy player on the ball and he tries to make things happen but his thinking is often out of sync with those around him. Just plainly not what this team needs, he's a play maker yes but we need a ball winner in there. If he had one next to him it might help as him and Travis showed promise at one point. You cannot have midfielders at championship who can't/won't tackle and especially not when the rest of the side is so weak.

That's word for word almost to what my mate texted whilst it was going on. Gally is useless in games like that so get him in the middle and it at least gives us a outlet, Dolan is the one and only guy we have capable of coming on and doing something. That's ridiculous in itself but has been the way for a while now. Travis is Travis yes hes been off form but he isn't going to get it back sat there watching games run away from us and he remains the only one who can put a tackle in. Development style and experimental style football should be played in the U21s, points winning football is all that matters at first team level.

Funnily enough as that ball went in for their first goal i knew nobody would clear it they were all ball watching for that. As a centre back surely the first instinct is to meet the ball and clear it but no it was watched then Hyam just stuck a foot out. The tone was set for the day right there, good finish by the lad but he shouldn't have been anywhere near that ball. On Rathbone i thought he must've grown up to be a dingle he was like a man possessed yesterday. According to their fans he's always like that but my god could we do with some of that. Why is it that successive Rovers manager seem terrified to have a few physical bully boys in the team ? We are trying to play polished football with kids and average players and it's plain silly because 50% of the time we come off second best. You learn from defeat they say, well our lot should be on triple A level+ standard already, what they seem to be learning is to accept defeat far too easily.

It will never change whilst these names are over the door because of the void between here and India and those that work in that void. Far too easy a number once feet are under the table, keep the middleman onside and he'll let you get on with it whilst he rides his own gravy train.

Nothing highlighted how powder puff Rovers are than yesterday it was pathetic but when you look at the two midfielders it's no wonder. It's like a schoolboys team in there i struggle to think of a tackle Morton has made let alone won he is a real weak link in this side and Garret is out of his depth. The engine room has no engine and the coaches just want soft slow little passes instead of a ball winning mentality.

Iv'e yet to see what that Remy brings to the party other than looking like he should be sat up in the JW with a tartan rug over his knees and a flask of coffee.

And they are writing off money paid or potential income like it's nothing so again it's a good way to lose money they don't need.

Given even more food for thought by their willingness to let assets leave for nothing and leave us needing their money. Whilst never seeming bothered about the Prem and its trillions.

We let in far too many soft goals so i'd welcome another good centre back to form a partnership with Hyam.

Sadly i think the way we play now and the distinct lack of basic stuff created even the best forwards in this division would struggle here.

Vale should be out on loan, Morton should not be guaranteed starting and not being subbed before 80 mins, Garrett should be out on loan, Gallagher should be traded. Broughton should seek some experience and a bit of steel.

The results since JDT and Broughton made such a big deal of the WC break being so important to coaching the team on the training ground into how he wants us.