Probably a million quid invested in Pears and Hedges in fee for the pair.

That's what he'll be targeting to make up his numbers, fleece away fans and the few home fans that will pitch up.

I'll settle for any style of winning football but failing that i want a lively style and a nice bit of counter attacking. Pressure to play 'attractive' football all too often leads to being happy with a losing as long as your stats are good.

He's going to have a big shortfall again on his ST numbers so the pay on the days will have to carry the can for that to make up the budget. Can only see another price rise and cat A games.

Yes, just not 40%

The high press has worked well for us when it has been used but it's difficult to take it into every game. Under Bowyer we had it once every 6 games, under TM last season we had it quite often first half of the season but once it stopped it rarely appeared again.

I doubt we are talking much money to be honest maybe a million or two. I can fully believe that scenario because it's happened before and last time it was Waggot who confirmed it.

Saint Tony ladies and gents. Really believed in a promotion push that fella.

Shape up or ship out lad should be the tag line now. One look at Willem Tomlinson should be enough to get pennies dropping for some of the younger lads.

There's no way Dack turns into a high press player for 90 mins every game. Rhodes couldn't do it either. His talents can still be harnessed though just get others around him doing it whilst leaving him to find space.

So basically he was saying let me sell to buy or i won't bring in what we need with the bit i have to spend ?

That's the number iv'e seen mentioned before, can earn up to 25k with goal, win bonuses etc Sounds plausible.

I'm loving Preston being our youth feeder club. Might have more season ticket holders this season but no academy eh lads 😛

Yet according to his new pal on here he has plenty of authority and we are all stupid for thinking otherwise. Personally i think it's probably just another dollop of BS from Waggot where he leaves it hanging and again everyone assumes it's the owners. They'll know naff all about it i'd wager.

You can barely get change out of that for a pint these days.

Nepotism can work both ways that's why it gets ignored in football i presume. Hedges looks decent enough once given a chance and a position. The paying a needless fee for him then not using him properly when we couldn't win raises the real questions. That was more down to what was in Mowbrays head rather than who's his family.

Then the rhetoric will be 'but we only sell 8k season tickets so what do you expect, we can't afford players'.... It suits some i think.

I remember him trying to take shots from the edge of the box and struggling to reach the goal.

There's no nepotism in football whatsoever obviously..... 🙄

The warm ups under Benson look fine very similar to when John Keeley was here. Worst ones iv'e seen were under the guy Lambert brought in, can't remember who he was even.

Vast majority aren't though they are on half or less that's why i said Tosin isn't a great example he's an exception rather than the rule. It's easy for an agent to say i'll get you more than 8 grand a week at Blackburn plus signing on fee though. It should also be easy for Rovers to tie an asset down 2 years ago whose starting point is a very modest wage. Agree on the malaise but that in truth is only part of it as the club or whoever still managed to bloat the wage bill with Holtby, Downing, Trybull, Johnson and keeping Bennett and Evans etc. Hindsight is wonderful of course but some very wrong calls have been made along the way.

Tosin is a poor example he was recruited by City the richest team in the UK and on a reputed 30 grand a week anyway. We also paid a million pound loan fee for him. We are talking about graduates from our academy where the starting point wage is between 5 and 7 grand per week allegedly.

Who knows but as i said earlier the starting points for players are different. A bit like the daft match by match ticket pricing strategies everyone at Rovers seems to be on different wages. Kaminski as you say is an established keeper and came for a fee i think so he's on established money to start with. The debate is the lads we are on about weren't on that type of money but were probably asking for it, which is fair enough. Other factors obviously come into play but maybe Travis was on a better deal to start with. Or more likely he's happy here and his personal life is settled so for now he was happy to extend.

The reasons being his back knackered unfortunately and also i think his general fitness habits deteriorated. There's been plenty from him out in public about that period and we just got him as time was beginning to take its toll i think.

As others have said though the starting point for them as academy graduates, low cost signings was low. So the club offering 6 grand a week plus bonuses to someone who was on 3 to 4k is a good rise. Problem is the standard wage for established similar players in this league and some already at the club at the time was 10/11 grand a week. So they are perfectly entitled imo to ask for that especially when we are carrying players on 14/15k and above. I'm certain earlier in the talks some middle ground could have been reached with at least one or maybe two of them. It doesn't set a good tone here if those coming through the ranks can't even aim to get a regular championship wage here. Once they start getting noticed and the contracts start ticking down so signing on fees come into play elsewhere they suddenly realize they can be quids in.