The deliberate leaning towards relegation would likely come from those doing the button pushing of the V's as they stand to continue making % from more ins and outs. From Vs point it's probably more of a don't really care either way maybe after being advised that if relegation did occur it gives them the opportunity to drive cutbacks across the board. Strip it right back to build it up again in a much cheaper, leaner and easier manageable version. They seem happy to absorb certain losses through the books and it probably suits them that way so they are not arsed. They may even be using Rovers to filter off a few quid from the main corporation and into some offshore account as an unofficial divi or pension without scrutiny pot from shareholders or something.

There you go again with your veiled defense of Venkys and the badly advised line. Kean cheaper than Allardyce ???????????? 6 whole years and you still believe it's all down to a bit of bad advise, get some new coffee Revster

Yep not really a betting man and certainly not on football but i was so brassed off in summer and so convinced we would i staked a few quid on it. Also 8-1 for us to finish rock bottom, maybe that won't happen but the rest you could see it coming a mile off and all things considered the season is panning out just as quite a few expected it would. Anybody advising any owners or people running clubs would have said that would be the case. Strange that, i suppose the poor confused fools still aren't listening eh ! Then again........

The hidden partners/advisers have another feeding frenzy getting people off the wage bill and out the door in summer again like last time. I think it's as simple as that the club has been agents vehicle since this lot turned up and we've had an unbelievable amount of players, managers, coaching staff, directors etc through the doors, All hired and most paid off, someones making money. Said this from the off i don't trust Coyle one bit and he has form for other people feeling the same the guys another imposter it was a rotten appointment right from the off. Only someone as desperate as Blackpool would've touched him yet he's here with his feet firmly under the table. Venkys have turned their backs and gone hiding and left it to their buddies to sort out the mess and all they are bothered about is filling their pockets with %. Look at the guy who's just turned up another one who cannot give a straight answer to anything especially when it comes to how he got the job and meeting with specific people who own it. Then he goes on to mention partners, stakeholders and shareholders!!!!! Why ? Absolutely any other club in our position if it had the means to strengthen or change manager would 100% do so. All this gang are concerned with is getting as much as possible for the latest asset ! The parallels with Keans time here are too close for comfort and if this jerk doesn't relegate us this season he'll be sure to complete the job next.

Not much time for that Lockett myself after that fight. Towel should have been in pretty sharpish it was obvious he was getting hammered. Didn't help having Saunders/Furys and the rest of the plastic pikeys banging on the ring apron egging him on when he was out on his feet. Getting back in the ring is all down to Blackwell though but that gym and those in it will come under scrutiny now, quite rightly.

Wilders been a bit in and out for me recently, decent performance then not so good although he's out injured at the min, due back Feb i think. Just like AJ and Fury he needs to be testing himself against the best now. Always got rid of what's been put in front of him though.

What was it 8-1 at the beginning of the season ?

Brown went AWOL in front of goal everyweek and Curry went awol during the week lol If Curry had Browns effort and attitude back then he might have done ok though.

Sean Curry now there was a turkey from what i remember, used to detest that guy. I vaguely remember going away to Bradford and seeing him put in what was probably the worst laziest performance i'd ever seen from a Rovers player up to that point. Even his own players were having a go at him.

Yes fully agree and yes i can see Fury being a spoiler but he'd get nailed before he does any nailing or dragged it into late rounds. He's a hard lad though so he might get up but i doubt it although there's no forgone conclusions with heavyweights, one punch and all that. I think Wilder would be the man to upset the AJ applecart if anyone does and that's the biggest test out there for either one. David Haye in top form probably beats them both but not sure if he's that much left to be honest.

My point on this with Fury is he wouldn't get away with the way he fought 39 year old over cautious Klitschko when fighting the likes of Wilder and joshua. Younger, far quicker, throw long jabs and combinations whereas in many was Wlad was tailor made for Fury. Everyone has a nemises, i think Mike Tyson at his best could have blown away most top heavyweights in history over the first 5 rounds or so but i think he would always have had problems with Holyfield whenever they might have met. When Klitschko fought Haye he chased him all over the ring for 12 rounds yet the guy could only shuffle after Fury, too busy keeping his paws up. Iv's seen Joshua live a few times and he's quick and so are his feet and for a big guy he can also work some angles. Different kinds of fights and in these Fury would have to trade and he would get tagged no doubt. He won the title fight fair and square in the ring despite suspicions about what he may have used to get himself in that shape but before that he'd shown me nothing exceptional at all and having seen him in the flesh a few times it'll take 12 months to get him in that shape again. He's the one with it all to prove.

Considering his past career i thought Mike Duxbury was crap at Rovers he definitely played like a dingle in blue and white. Can't recall if he was just on loan or on a contract.

Own goal v Oxford, a bit more convincing than Duffys 3 efforts though

Agree with one or two others on Perez i thought he was class and his heart was in it. Just didn't seem to work out for him but no wonder when we've seen Hodgsons round pegs for square holes approach numerous times in different jobs since.

Probably not the worst he had a fantastic pedigree and was only on loan but Dino Baggio, the man who came off the pitch every week with his shirt and shorts almost cleaner and crisper than when he went on. We go on about agents these days, quite rightly but for a period back then particularly the Hodgson, Souness eras they must have had a field day.

Land deals as well

Sunk without much trace once the 4 year 20k pwk contract someone at Rovers gave him had gone to his head and his stomach. Still only 32 now, he's either another waste of talent or a guy who got very lucky

Actually iv'e just seen another shocker pop up on Rovers twitter account, Maceo Rigters ! Even Hughsey dropped the odd clanger and i remember there being a lot of raised eyebrows about how he got here and the wage he was on. Watched him for the 2nd string a few times and he really was pants.

I was going to mention 'the train' lol apart from being quick in full flow and that goal v Everton lets face it he was crap !

You've got to weigh it all up really when deciding and most of the current lot aren't very good but never have been and we don't expect them to be. Yes a good few should be better but they wouldn't be here under the current charade if they were any good. Not making excuses for them but some of the trash we've paid money for and some who've come with reputation on Prem wages then taken the p$sh certainly deserve first place in the worst player stakes. 4.5 million for Ward ....... Then you get people like Duffy and Orr who must be along the lines of the biggest chunts every to play for the club and i'm not talking about limited ability i'm talking about contribution and influence, bad apples. The Peterborough game and the Cardiff/Wigan/Preston games will live in the memory for ever and i can't quuite think of any others who've blatantly taken the whizz like this pair.

Fettis played a few though i'm sure, certainly enough to qualify as useless

Did we sign Harkness as well ? He was as bad. Yes i think that was him, Javi De Pedro or something. Came with a bit of bluster and supposed flying winger but absolutely useless and no interested from the off. I think when Souness was winding down at Rovers he was signing some crap on purpose to try and make a point.

Fettis Orr Peacock Duffy Matteo Feeney Murphy Frandsen So crap i forget his name, Souness signing think. Ward Brown

Lesser. I'm sure Coyle would jump at keeping the pair of them but when Saints/Swansea ask he'll tell them i have to ask India. The slasha will don his briefcase jump on a plane then not be seen or heard of again till Feb. Meanwhile the only phone switched on in Pune towers will be the one marked outgoing sales which gets answered after 2 rings 'ah Mr Marshalls agent, yes that's fine tell him thankyou and goodbye '

Cracking nights boxing so glad i went and added bonus of not phone signal in there so i didn't know score till after midnight That Chisora v Whtye was and absolute cracker, rarely do fights live up to the overhype nonsense and so called bad blood that SKY foists upon us for virtually every match up these days but this one delivered. Neither was giving an inch and i'm sure would've carried on until one just dropped. Top stuff and to think i thought their rivalry was fake ! Del boy robbed though and whilst i think Hearn is a great promoter the number of stinks around his fight results are now getting beyond suspicion. In a fight that that when there is no belt on the line and the judges find it hard they shouldn't be under pressure for a winner they should be comfortable calling a draw. Then when Hearn comes out and says Whyte is lined up for Wilder it whiffs even more. Great to see Quigg back again and putting on a performance that was sadly missing v Frampton, unlucky for Blackledge but he was always going to be outclassed. Didn't let anyone down and he's tough lad but that brutal ko which came because he was knackered won't do him any favours. AJ did what was expected and everyone slagging him needs to remember that was just his 18th pro fight and if the chance of a beatable guy with a belt hadn't dropped in his lap then he'd still be fighting guys like Molina as part of his development. Hearn is doing it right with him and for me and now Wlad is primed for the taking. Won't be easy but his effort or lack of it v Fury showed he's on the wane, he won't trade with Aj and he won't take those shots although i'd never rule him out. Point is though by the time they fight he'll have been out 18 months and be about 41, all that balances it out somewhat, After seeing Fury again last night and him and his crews usual antics he remains a first class tit. Must be 25 stone and shuffled in and out looking almost embarrassed before talking crap on twitter again. Finished at that level i'd say, iv'e watched a lot of boxing and for me Joshua simply blows away ANY version of Fury.