Sorry Philip I simply cannot do that mind exercise and differentiate by breaking up their tenure as you suggest. I walked out of Old Trafford as proud as punch when we beat them but I still despised Kean. I hold them entirely responsible for were we are now and the awful journey they have taken us on which has decimated our club. They get absolutely no credit from me whatsoever.

Mowbray said last season that playoffs was the aim which is at odds with the slow build nonsense. I accept that Mowbray is a real professional in the truest sense and he has done some good things here but I cannot accept that Waggott has been professional in his workings here irrespective of his time in football. He has played a big part reducing season ticket sales by trying to impose disproportionate price increases, shutting stands and largely doing away with concessions. His brief was to grow income. He has been an abject, expensive failure. Venkys commitment didn't start two years ago, the bought the club nearly a decade ago. And their commitment that fateful day their ownership was announced has been pissed all over. To remind you of their undertaking ten years ago. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/nov/19/venkys-completes-takeover-blackburn-rovers We had a debt of £20m when they took over, what is it now?

Who are the professionals and what is the long-term strategic direction?

Having refereed on over eighty professional grounds I can tell you categorically that the Ewood crowd is absolutely no different to any other when it comes to being critical. This is a real myth perpetrated to show us in bad light, very often by our own.

I have been thinking the same but even more during the last few months. With their intermediary still missing in action they are relying on Swag and Cheston to keep them informed and I wouldn't trust that pair to make a jelly. Something will have to give.

Didn't Bowyer sign three players from outside the UK? From memory Songo, Koite and another. All useless by the way and probably not scouted in the conventional sense.

Although I haven't seen all the game what I have seen is that Norwich look poor and suffering from a PL hangover. Their gaffer might be one of the first managerial casualties of the season.

I asked the very same question. I would give it to Holtby or Johnson.

A good Chief Executive who achieves his objectives is worth the huge salaries. This bloke is a drain on our meagre resources. I asked recently for one good thing that Swag has done in nearly three years for the club or the fans. I'm still waiting for one.

I don't think that under 23 football comes anywhere near the intensity of Championship football. Directly up against Moore and the long throws of Cardiff will test Ayala to the maximum. And apparently he hasn't played a Championship game since January. This news throws a new perspective on the game for me.

I'm not entirely sure on the extent of the injury but I have been told he will be fine to join up the ROI. That strongly indicates nothing serious or something devious. ??

Injured I believe.

Ayala debut replacing Lenihan I understand.

Samba was given new contracts before Venkys rocked up. The truth is nobody knows what the real story behind the Raya to Arsenal story barring a few individuals.

That's a bit insulting for having an opinion on something none of us really know the truth about. And by the way lots of agents do use that kind of leverage to get moves or new deals for their clients. That's their job and they will do it by fair means or foul. I'm not sure if you were around when Samba was but he seemed to get a new deal every year to stop him from leaving. I know that because his agent told me. https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/transfer-window/agents-leaks-denials-and-spoofers-the-evolution-of-the-football-transfer-process-31470537.html

Terrific - there is something evocative and authentic about black and white photos. Thanks for sharing them.

The Raya story smacks of an agent doing his job. Get a move from Rovers to a club with a reputation for player development, create a link to Arsenal cleverly underpinned by the Brentford goalkeeper coach going there and hey presto - a shiny new, greatly improved contract for his player. He has played them all like a fiddle.

There was never a mention of a first or second phase until today. It was a deadline of October 2nd and nothing mentioned beyond that. The Ewood spin machine ties itself in knots once again.

Due to the embarrassingly low sales........... https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2020/october/season-pass-deadline-extended/

Thanks RV. That news at least offers me a glimmer of hope that we might one day be free of these wretched owners.

I sympathise with your dilemma but ignore the comments of anybody trying to put you on a guilt trip. If Rovers go bust it won't be because you (or anybody) didn't buy a season ticket. It will be because we have had a decade of awful management by the incompetent and arrogant owners, the very ones who some of the accusers are fawning over.

I try not to listen to the pundits in the studio as on most occasions they just state the obvious. Somebody still involved in the game said to me that Souness and Keane very rarely talk about technical aspects of the game because that's an area where they struggle. Neville is decent in co commentary and usually says it as it is. Redknapp and Carragher offer nothing in my view. I wonder what the collective cost is to Sky, BT and the BBC for all this expert punditry?

I was thinking the same. Reading lots of opinions up and down the country it's almost for some that it will be a given that crowds are back next season. It's difficult for the 'experts' to see into the future but clubs are offering different kinds of incentives, natively in my view.

That is the kind of thinking that Waggott should've doing. Instead we had the announcement before the restart that there was no recompense for missing games, only the offer of iFollow. This was followed by weeks and weeks of silence and then the announcement that season tickets were going up by hugely disproportionate levels and, in many cases pretty much out of supporters reach in such uncertain times. And both announcements paid scant reference to the possible individual plight of supporters instead pleading poverty and, annoyingly, trying to put supporters on some kind of guilt trip. Shambolic management. Your idea of supporters having some collective say in the happenings at Ewood really appeals to me and I would certainly consider this but the realist in me knows this is highly unlikely to happen. There are too many at Ewood and in India who don't want their boats rocking by us plebs.

And to put a price increase on and sell something that doesn't exist is complete madness.