RevidgeBlue

Not surprising as an ex Boro player and manager Woodgate wants him to stay. Who else is going to take all Boro's duds off their hands for them?

Even if that's entirely true I'm sure he could still stick his oar in and make it as difficult as possible by threatening to walk if TM is sacked (if Carlsberg did sackings) or refusing to deliver the news himself.

Kean was not only not unsackable he walked out of his own accord after being needled out by Shebby Singh. Mowbray hasn't moved a muscle yet.

**Desperately clutching at straws** Maybe just maybe it had been agreed for a relatively dignified exit in the summer but the wheels have fallen off so badly there's had to be a Hasty rethink but there hasn't been time to dot all the i's and cross all the t's on a new appointment yet. ** Then I woke up and remembered Waggott was Mowbray's immediate boss.

For me the similarities at Coventry make the Brockhall thing a purely Waggott/Mowbray/ Venus driven initiative.

Exactly. All the more reason why a lame duck/dead man walking manager should have no input whatsoever on the future direction of our training facilities/Brockhall. A new coaching regime might have a completely different view.

I'm hoping to distribute it Brockhall way when we get chance.

If we fail to win. But the form over that period would be equivalent to around twenty points over the course of the season. Twenty points! Let that sink in.

I thought it was exactly the opposite with Lambert. He announced he was exercising the option he had put in his deal with two games to go and didn't have a bad word to say about the Club or anyone at that point. I didn't think he should have been in the dug out for those last two games but bizarrely we won them both making his overall performance look a bit better than it really was. Conversely Mowbray has been talking as though he is fairly desperate to be paid off for a month or two now.

Like Mowbray hanging on for a pay off, I don't suppose there is any chance at all of Waggott actually walking if Mowbray is potted, he's not just going to walk away from a £300k p.a. job. It's going to need decisive action from the owners in respect of all three of the Coventrio. We'll probably find out indirectly what the owners views on the Brockhall plans are through this. Done without their consultation or spun a line to - P45's for all 3 Fully in support - no movement.

Blimey. He's woken up.

Don't disagree. What is Venky's home page? I found what seemed to be the home page for VH group last week but none of the links such as "contact us" seemed to work!

Thanks Dan (?) Our original intention was to embarrass Waggott by highlighting the gaping inconsistencies between what he has said and the available information and to bring into the public domain previously undiscussed questions. After the letter went live a number of people asked about the facility to sign the letter in support and this option was added. Unfortunately we missed the first 10-12 k viewings for signature purposes. Obviously the intent is to keep on sharing the letter as widely as possible and if it gains enough traction in due course then obviously the LT and other local media outlets may be forced to report on it indirectly as you say. Whether that happens will depend on the number of people we eventually manage to get it before, and the extent to which they like it. You can take a horse to water but you can't make them drink and all that.

You might have missed the discussion about the LT on the other thread. We didn't think the LT would want to run it voluntarily as a letter for fear of falling out with the Club so offered to put it in as a paid for banner ad with a QR code linking to the ad which is also a lot less unwieldy than a multi page letter. So far the LT have declined to run it.

I'll do it. My idea originally so the responsibility is primarily on my head to promote it and I can just print the initial version off easily enough.

Waggott is the obvious fly in the ointment in this scenario, combined with whatever the 3 of them have planned for Brockhall.

Top and bottom of it. Wouldn't it be refreshing if an LT journalist fired that at Waggott the next time he tried to claim Mowbray was a "great" manager.

It's not rocket science to understand the difference between the two. For the amount of aggravation he would have been getting he wouldn't have been on a big salary at Coventry whereas he'll be on way more here. I don't expect anyone in his position would walk away from here 1without any form of pay off but surely in normal circumstances him and his agent could have approached the Club at any point recently to request a payoff and departure "by mutual consent". Sick of alluding to it but you do wonder if he's hanging on for another reason.

So the reason we're struggling to score apparently is "the situation with the forwards". Roughly translated as: "I wasted £12m on two strikers who don't look up to it at the best of times but I've them look even worse by sticking them out on the wing all season due to my inexplicable obsession with "wide forwards".

Suit yourself. It's not hindsight, or a recent thing, he should have gone two years ago. We had two exceptional games early in the season but having stumbled on a winning formula he couldn't wait to depart from that. He's never changed. As a result we're in absolute free fall as a Club with the state of the squad also an absolute shambles - countless players out of contract in summer. All this could have been avoided by removing him and Venus two years ago. We can't say we didn't get adequate warning with the results then. Of course it's no use crying over spilt milk, all we can try and do is turn things round from here.

Right, hopefully after today we can see the need to unite against these plans and stop bickering with each other. The players certainly look as if they've thrown the towel in over the last couple of months, I wonder if these plans came to light without any consultation with them? As for the idea of a former player spearheading the campaign, it would be nice were that to happen but I think it's unlikely, at the end of the day whatever feelings of affection they had for the Club it was a job for them and it's maybe a bit unfair to put them in that position. It's down to us.

Way past that for me den. Whilst I shed no years when Kean was sacked we were 5th or 6th when he was (rightly) removed.

There must be an element of appearance money in these players contracts - there's no other explanation for it Either that or a minimum number of appearances automatically triggers a new contract.

Completely agree.

Completely disagree. If they can do it no reason why ANYONE can't. (With a decent manager)