RevidgeBlue

The only one of our centre halves to consistently look the part this season has been Wharton imo. When fit he'd be my first one in with probably Ayala alongside - if he can be bothered. Failing that didn't think k the combination of Wharton and Lenihan looked too bad.

I think Bell has done well when called upon this season to be fair. Not suggesting he's the answer if we were to have promotion aspirations but still. Douglas has been woeful for me.

And Douglas is crap as well. Bell's been far better this season.

As per usual the commentators on i-follow were watching a completely different game. Whilst we were ok going forward first half, defensively we were dire Pukki should have had two more, the young lad Martin should have had another and they should also have had another right at the end. Not half chances either, absolute sitters it was harder to miss than score. Up against a decent centre half in Hanley Armstrong never got a kick. No fight in them whatsoever after the second goal. The triple substitution on 70 mins was an absolute joke and made things even worse. Elliott excellent - he isn't even our player- Nyambe very good - he'll be off soon - the rest - meh. Season over yet again and it isn't even Christmas. How many more chances is this buffoon of a manager going to get?

Not sure how a week that could produce one point out of nine qualifies as a "good" one. IF (and it's a very big "if") we beat Norwich I'd say that would be an ok week, draw and that would be a poor one. Another loss would be a very poor one.

Ah yes I forgot. We haven't given him a new contract so you're maintaining he's s h I t. Wasn't great on the goal, apart from that thought he had an excellent game.

Was an enjoyable game until the first substitution, then it all seemed to go to pieces. I think Moggasaurus has made poor changes in each of the last three games and got away with it the last two but not tonight. Rothwell and Nyambe the pick for me.Kaminsky had two or three kamikaze moments that would have had the board in meltdown had it been Raya but he got away with them. One point from two games isn't going to cut the mustard, whilst we did well to rescue a point with ten men Saturday, a team headed for promotion would have nicked a narrow victory tonight rather than the other way round. We need a manager who will drill a winning mentality into them otherwise we're going nowhere this season and face a mass exodus next.

Was going to say Nyambe but thought both he and Ayala were pretty powder puff on the goal.

Agreed. He's been disappointing for me given the build up when he signed.

Decent looking side. Could do with the three points to keep the momentum going after being hampered by the sending off on Saturday. On the appeal, not surprised it was rejected, I thought Lenihan got wrong side and wrestled the Brentford player to the floor. From Lenihan's point of view, nailed on dismissal already being on a yellow, even if it wasn't adjudged a straight red and from the Club's point of view complete waste of an appeal as Mercer says.

Not sure why, in Nyambe's case especially it won't be with us! I think the Covid situation is a convenvenient excuse and a complete red herring. The need to tie down our best players on a long term basis was evident long before anyone ever heard of Covid and every Club is in the same boat in that respect. We are also completely reliant on our owners to fund the operation anyhow, we don't come anywhere near to washing our face financially without their backing at the best of times.

Dear me, based on their times here Mowbray isn't fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Furphy for me, just imagine what Ken could have done with the highest wage bill in the division by a country mile and the 70's equivalent of spending £1m on Bradley Dack. I'd also say Smith's career overall indicates he was a far better manager than Mowbray. I'd say Don Mackay was also streets ahead of Mowbray on a far worse budget as well. Didn't rate Saxton at all so there's not much to choose between them there, would probably give Mowbray the slight edge based on his (heavily bankrolled) League 1 promotion.

I blame Moggasaurus and the spiv Swaggott. Venky's probably aren't even aware this is such a major issue and that the situation was so urgent. It's probably too late now. There always seems to be plenty of money to give over the hill and/or average players like Mulgrew, Evans, Bennett or Graham an un necessarily generous and lengthy contract extension. Or give a non playing player like Gladwin another deal because we were feeling sorry for him or pay Hart and Smallwood for 12 months to do nothing then give them another month when the season was extended. Or give Downing another deal to top up his pension fund. But when it comes to securing a key player, "computer says no". It's down to the manager to anticipate these potential problems well in advance, recognise who is a key player and who isn't, keep the squad size under control and dispense ruthlessly with deadwood so that we can look after our important players when the time comes.

What's the situation regarding half season tickets/passes? Are we doing them this season or simply not bothering? I just clicked on the website and it looks like anyone wanting to purchase a pass for the remainder of the season, or give one as a Christmas present would still have to pay the full season price! Come on Rovers! Surely even Swag can do better than that!

Well that's one of the "bonus" points in the bag. Another four or five wins in fairly quick fashion and we'll be in good shape and that's the mentality we need to have and the immediate target we should be setting to get in an around the top 2.

Way too much pessimism above. I've yet to see another Championship side I've been particularly impressed with this season and we need to be going into every game with the mindset that it's a winnable fixture and perform accordingly. None of this we'll settle for 3 draws or WLD malarkey.

Thought we looked far more solid defensively when Wharton was playing myself. Unfortunately I don't suppose he'll get much of a look in if Ayala and Lenihan are fit.

Didn't think we played that badly last night, thought Millwall looked a very decent side. The only thing that puzzled me was what I thought was an appalling triple substitution on 73 mins. 1-1 at home and we bring off two forwards (Gallagher and Elliott) and arguably our most creative midfielder in Holtby and bring on another 3 midfielders. I also thought Gallagher and Elliott were two of our slightly better performers on the night. (I didn't agree with withdrawing Armstrong for the last two or three minutes either as it left us without any form of out whatsoever) After the triple substitution I thought we dropped off and I held out no hope of us nicking the vital three points until Armstrong not having done a bean all night popped up unexpectedly which is a sign of a really good goalscorer. So we got away with it despite Tombola Tony giving everyone a run out to keep them happy. It just goes to show how important the result is, if we'd played brilliantly the last two games and lost everyone would be on the floor, we scrape a couple of streaky victories and everyone is over the moon. That's what we'll have to continue to do over the course of the season if we want to challenge. Still think we have the squad but not the manager but let's see!

Won't be the case by the end of the season though, general rule of thumb, you need roughly two points per game to guarantee automatic promotion. Right now we're seven points behind that mark so over the course of the season we'd be likely to need to average two points per game plus five or six "bonus" points!

I think it's quite negative to be trying to break into the top 6, we should be aiming for the top 2 then we have the playoffs as a fall back if we fail to make it. On that basis the manager should be trying to drum into the players that sooner rather than later we need a run of six consecutive wins to get up to the two points per game mark. He won't be of course. He'll be trying to eke it out and convince everyone that being in contention for a play off place by the end of next season is acceptable.

At the time I thought that that last jab must have caused some really really serous damage to his eye. He didn't just quit, because of a swollen and closed eye (although that would have been bad enough in itself for any normal mortal) and if the prognosis of a broken eye socket is correct then that confirms my thoughts at the time. That said, whilst I didn't think his attitude was particularly in question, he didn't overly impress either, and showed the hype about him is a little premature.

My apologies, you're right, quarter final not final (should have said World Cup "Finals") but I don't think that makes any difference to the point I was making, a quarter final of the World Cup is the biggest of stages and the principle is exactly the same. It's not usual but I have seen players own up to misdemeanours on occasion over the years. You may think it's a twee comparison but if a golfer was proved to be cheating to try and win, not only would he not be a hero but he'd be disgraced and would probably never play professionally again. Had one of our players done that during the 66 final I wouldn't have a particularly high opinion of the player in question and personally I wouldn't derive much if any satisfaction from the win. Others probably still would - each to their own. OnhMaradona's pure ability, can only repeat what I said above, I never said he wasn't a great player.

I never said Maradona wasn't a great player either. I did have him at number 3 in my all time list. I merely said that for me to be considered the greatest of all time the player in question should have something special about them personality wise - and got told to "give my head a wobble!" It's a matter of opinion anyhow. Most people's assessments will be slightly different.

So you're saying Maradona didn't have to be a nice person to be be considered a great player (true) but in the next breath you're saying you don't like Pele because he's "smug?" Is this a spoof post? FWIW if you read anything by Pele he always comes across as exceptionally humble imo. On Maradona, he was exceptionally talented as a player but and I never wished him any harm but neither am I personally losing any sleep over a guy who cheated to win a World Cup Final and who was a drug addict and someone with Mafia connections off it. I'm not bothered about what he did off the pitch, many people have their personal demons, my indifference to him is much more down to the fact that he cheated to win a World Cup Final. I understand it's something you could do instinctively but if he'd instantly owned up to his misdemeanour and had the goal ruled out his legend would far eclipse even what it is now. Not a particularly accurate comparison with Best either imo. Maradona was a much darker character.

Trybull's a nothing player for me, exactly like Evans offers absolutely nothing either offensively or defensively