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Theres no way that we spend fees on 2 midfielders and keep Travis and Tronstad. Although if we did keep Travis and Tronstad, which considering we havent bothered to offer a deal to either which makes it incredibly unlikely. It would be a stupid allocation of our limited resources considering our weaknesses elsewhere. Especially our weak attack.

"If hes any cop whatsoever." So not even Tronstad is overrated now, hes literally no cop whatsover. Has to be a mixture of stubbornness and I think a bias because he hated Broughton so much that he cant possibly just admit that it was a very good bit of business.

Is he injured now? He seems to have been constantly injured and missed Cardiff's last 2 games. I think his foot was in a protective boot.

So Nixon was spouting out of date shite that he had been teasing for days.

Its not a saga if we literally never even offer a contract in the first place. If we had seemingly 2 midfielders lined up, one signed and one in talks, why did we rush to get Forshaw back in having released him?

This link doesnt make much sense as things stand. We havent even tried to get Travis and Tronstad tied down but as it stands, we would have 6 central midfielders if we got this player. And are desperate in other positions. Some will dismiss "constantly mentioning it" but the contract situation is again an inexcusable massive elephant in the room this summer. It is totally unacceptable that a contract wasnt put in front of them a long time ago. I dont expect every single player to sign new deals. But I dont excuse not knowing what is going on coming into the summer. We should have offered our best offer beforehand and come into the summer likely with a mixture of key players tied down and maybe one or two at most unwilling to sign in which case preparations can be made in advance to move them on.

Has to be another lie. Not sure how we can be close to a breakthrough without even offering a contract or talking numbers.

Contract update in the LT. We still havent even bothered to offer them terms, even provisionally. Unacceptable and totally overshadows our transfer window.

That account is full of shit. Covering all bases there.

Their signings certainly make them stronger. Kyogo should score plenty, hes not the youngest so hes not a project to sell on but not every signing needs to be. Doyle has proven himself as a very good midfielder at this level and they already have Iwata and Paik, seemingly they arent adopting our mindset of signing unwanted Plymouth players adopting an attitude of "well we cant get players as good as our current first choice so we wont even bother trying to get someone to push them." Osayi-Samuel is a useful squad player who is versatile and has done well at this level before. Not 100% sold on Gray but their current squad didnt have much pace and theyve got 2 quick players there.

Theres no way that a Premier League club now holds a serious interest in Carter. He isnt a young player so you wouldnt be paying for potential, hes injury prone and in the last 2 years his performances have been poor.

If there is any truth to Al-Sahafi. He was part of the Saudi Arabia squad at the Gold Cup until the 29th June so presumably his pre season involvement would be limited due to a potential holiday.

Its not just about having 2 warm bodies per position, we need sufficient quality. You concede that Al-Sahafi would be a risk. Out wide has been a weak position for a while and was an area we really needed to strengthen this summer. Im not saying either this Al-Sahafi (if there is truth in the rumour) or De Neve don't have ability and wont do well in time, but they are cheap, young punts and replace our only proven and competent winger. Al-Sahafi - his only football at a reasonable standard was half a season at a Belgian club that got relegated. He is 21 and would need time to settle. De Neve - quite young, has barely any goals or assists to his name, again relegated from the Belgian league and has often played at left back. Kargbo - barely been seen, but again we dont know what we have with him. Appears raw. Hedges - offers a similar attacking threat to Toth Thats not a set of wingers that would give me any sort of excitement or confidence. It would put untold pressure on the 2 newbies (one who has very little senior experience) settling into the country to hit the ground running. And it would inevitably mean that Hedges who even as his biggest fan you concede should just be a squad player will play week in week out. Get a Gassama or whatever on top of these and at least you could have some confidence in someone who has shown that he can perform well at this level. Putting less reliance on the cheap punts. I mean, we do have the Nixon warchest, right?

Where is the loan to buy bit from? Surely he wouldnt cost much to buy. Loan screams barely plays and is never seen again.

Assuming any of these assumptions regarding him being in Manchester mean that we are signing him. Might depend on the circumstances. If he is a cheap permanent deal alongside a more proven wide man, a development project, can see some logic. If he is the only winger coming in and its him, Kargbo, De Neve and Hedges, its purely to build as cheap a squad as possible. If hes on loan like he was last season, pointless.

Its a fair point and one I agree with. Its the hypocrisy though.

Presumably that also shows a negative, glass half empty mentality based on his own logic.

We win far more often when he leads the line compared to Gueye and I dont think thats a coincidence.

Ohashi has been a good signing. Gueye I just dont think is up to it unfortunately. Only 6 goals and a considerably poorer record when he starts games. That West Brom performance seems the exception rather than the rule.

I think criticism or a lack of is one thing, but to have total faith in this recruitment setup is obviously down to each individual, but IMO misguided and premature. I dont think that the recruitment last season overly improved us, in particular when we spent around £1m. None of Toth, Kargbo and Gueye can be seen as proof that we can trust them implicitly yet, although the first 2 have not had enough game time either way to show.

Wasnt it your 9 year old daughter that called it? Either way, he wont end up in League 1 on a one year contract. He will either be in the Championship or abroad on a far more competitive salary than he was offered here. Hes nothign special but if we were signing a player that had provided what he did either in the Championship last season or even in a lesser league, we would see it as a very good signing.

The idea of you of all people suggesting a lack of balance in someones posting is laughable. Its called debate, both positives or negatives. What I have said about and think about Gassama is that he is a good player, hes quick, young and has had a good season just gone. I merely questioned how he would potentially fit into the team, seeing as he is perhaps better suited to being off the left. If you see that as being negative or glass half empty, then that is a problem with you. As we have seen, you simply do not have or choose not to display the ability to question things. You take everything at face value, believe everything and can not fathom any potential questions or doubts that could lead to conundrums or issues down the line. There is no way that there is even a slight doubt to you that any signing will be anything other than a 100% success. I dont think people missed what Nixon said about having money to spend. We have heard it all numerous times before, often though so people dont get all giddy when we see it again. Actions speak louder than words. Again, because its written down, its 100% accurate.

What are you on about? I am saying that it is our biggest position of need, therefore I would want a decent chunk of our resources to spent on it if necessary. A 21 year old who has spent all but 6 months playing in Saudi Arabia aside from a Belgian league relegation wouldn't shout to me, without knowing him, a player who is just gonna come in and make that position his own. This has all snowballed from someone saying he is in Manchester so he probably wont be signing anyway.

What are you on about? I am saying that it is our biggest position of need, therefore I would want a decent chunk of our resources to spent on it if necessary. A 21 year old who has spent all but 6 months playing in Saudi Arabia aside from a Belgian league relegation wouldn't shout to me, without knowing him, a player who is just gonna come in and make that position his own. This has all snowballed from someone saying he is in Manchester so he probably wont be signing anyway.

Obviously I dont know either way. Why would I? But I also don't know if Alan Nixon knows either way. And before you dig it out, I don't need your list of players that your mate has claimed to reveal prior to signing. We may be interested, I will assume we are to some degree. Although I only care about whether they actually sign, and even he was only claiming inquiries.