Elliott if we count loans.

It's impossible to imagine triggering the clause. He's a squad player being paid like a star player. Regardless of whether or not we have to continue making cuts, we, at the very least, have to continue making sensible financial decisions. Getting Gallagher off of the books would make more sense than losing virtually any other player that we have. It's a sad situation all round. We've wasted money that could have been better used and his career has failed to develop. He shows glimpses of the potential that he might have, but he's not impactful enough to justify anything above an average Championship salary (and even that might be generous).

Leave it out. A trough of England talent? This England team is packed full of incredibly talented players under the age of 25 and you're already thinking about their replacements? The Kane replacement is the only serious area of concern. We're unlikely to find another player of Kane's quality for some time (then again, he's probably the best in the world in his position), but I'm sure a decent candidate will emerge.

The goal is coming.

For me? No. There are too few opportunities to win trophies to define success exclusively based on how many times you win the Euros or the World Cup. That being said, this generation of players should win one of the next two, if they do so it will represent a very successful period. If they have an 8-year period with 1 trophy, 1 final, and 1 semifinal it will have been a generation that delivered on its promise.

I love being an England fan living abroad, because it gives such a better sense of perspective. Even reading on here, it's amazing to see how supporters can pick holes in a comfortable win over a top-10 European side. Are Italy a tier 1 nation? No, but to handle them in the manner in which England did is the sign of a very good team. We can be critical of certain players perhaps not deserving their spot or not squeezing every ounce of talent out of this squad, but the reality is that this is a top 2 side in Europe and probably a top 3/4 side in the world and it's been a long time since England could say that.

Actually, you're sort of wrong. There are plenty who continue to doubt high-performing players and expect a drop-off. Examples can be seen in those who don't think Wharton is the second-coming, or the supporters who thought that BBD's goalscoring was a purple patch rather than a sign of development.

Short-term yes, but possibly will hurt it in the long-term.

Yes, I mean Buckley. As for BBD, of course he'd be a useful addition, although I do believe that Sigurdsson is an upgrade.

I don't think we're exactly missing him. His best asset at the moment is being a warm body.

I question many aspects of the club, but not all aspects.

It's very clear that our fitness standards are pretty high. Our style of play requires a high level of fitness and we've signed a number of players who have been deemed to not meet that requirement in their first few weeks. There's a difference between his match fitness and his fitness for a medical. JDT has not implied that he was unfit to sign.

So you think the medical team is now cutting corners? Do you think the owners are instructing them to do so? The reaction to some things on here is often mind-boggling.

Few things are more pointless than next manager betting markets. There's so little liquidity in them and such close monitoring from bookmakers that any small bets shift the market considerably.

I'm not actually sure that was quite as bad as it first looked. Don't think he really could have got there, but the half-move made it look worse.

Never want to see a player suffer an injury, but this Pears knock could be just what we need to resolve the keeping debate.

I think we've got two players of real class in Moran and Sigurdsson. I really look forward to watching them as they grow into the team (and fitness improves).

We turn down far too many opportunities to shoot.

They pay the bills. Isn't that the basic level of competence? I'm not defending them, they've made a huge mess of owning us and continue to make the simple things hard, but they also haven't been quite as disastrous as some would like to make out.

We've never had money to recirculate. On what planet do you live? Even in the Walker Trust era when we managed to sell players for high fees we were still operating at a loss. Think about how much money we are losing enough and then try to put together a slate of transactions that balances the books.

Yet they are paying some pretty big bills. How entitled is that?

I'll take your points one at a time. 1 - Ultimately, if they're paying the bills, then I think it's hard to say that they owe more than that. 2 - I think a lot of fans say this, but when the reality of administration or multiple relegations hit they would change their tune. Yes, some will point to clubs that have managed to handle the situation relatively well (Bolton), but they are the exception. 3 - It is entitled because it assumes that every owner not only has to run a sensible business, but also operate at a huge personal loss. 4 - That is an issue that can't really be dressed at the individual club level. The business model for football is broken. Instead of supporters protesting that, we pick on individual owners who decide that they don't want to lose tens of millions (or more) owning a club. Every supporter on here is calling for more summer signings and asking why we aren't spending more money. We also operate at a huge loss in a way that virtually no other business would. It seems odd to me that supporters would be 'so happy' to go through the relegation route through some sort of nuclear implosion, yet are incredibly upset when the same results occur as a result of financial limitations when it comes to signings and wages. There's a degree of inconsistency and hypocrisy there. I don't really want to get into a debate where we single out individual clubs or examples, because there will always be bad owners. But many clubs complain about owners who do nothing worse than keep a business running.

Disagree. There's an entitled mentality creeping (or even sprinting) into football fan mentality when it comes to what they can demand from owners. At the absolute worst end of the scale you see things like Ajax last weekend and just the general behaviour of Manchester United fans over the last decade - but it is permeating most clubs. Many of our complaints about Venkys are fully justified, but even here we see fans expressing some expectation that an owner should be writing blank cheques to fund their own footballing wet dream.

I think the combination of a relatively successful season and developing an identity of playing a good brand of football will likely increase his reputation regardless of the results (assuming that they aren't absolutely catastrophic). We're only a few weeks into the season, but I've already had more non-Rovers supporting contacts mention our good style of football than I had comments last season about us being in the playoff places. People will see encouraging highlights and see the stats breakdown about our attacking style and they'll think that this is translatable to a higher level and that he would deliver better results with a better squad. The managers that get the most attention now are those that have a clearly recognisable style and system. JDT is establishing that here and it will garner attention even if we are midtable.

You can disagree with it, but not sure exactly how it can 'sound like nonsense'. Recent history would show that managers that play with a certain style tend to get more media attention.