That's good news, I can hardly wait to see Hedges back flip, when he scores.

I wouldn't raise a finger to help the Venkys.

Christ on a bike.

He didn't promise anything, he just said "I always win something in my second season" Of course it's different to Wigan, they had been battling against relegation for a few seasons, there was no expectation for Wigan to do anything different other than battle relegation from the league. Spurs are expected to fight on all fronts as they've heavily backed their manager. Of course they won't swap it but the cup win doesn't make Ange a great manager when the evidence of a 17th placed premier league finish with less than 40 points on the board is sat there as evidence to the contrary. I don't think it suits yours either, Wigan didn't prioritise the cup over the league, they won the cup and tried to stay in the league as well. Wigan only made 2 changes for the FA cup final vs the game before it, one was a player returning from injury. Anyway, I'm done banging my head against a brick wall on this.

Elliot saying that "internal discussions" have Hedges moving back over to the right wing next season, probably so they don't have to bother with a Dolan replacement.

It's a different situation entirely. Your inability/refusal to see any nuance is infuriating.

Is this De Neve guy actually close to signing or is it like the previous fella where the advanced talks fell off a cliff as soon as it was mentioned? If it is legit then I do see some logic in bringing in another left sided player. Hedges is crap and Kargbo's hammys have a 90% chance of going every time he breaks into a sprint.

No one has said that they wouldnt prefer to win a trophy over finishing higher in the league. Its just that some people think that the overall performance of the club this season predominantly results in the league season make it understandable why the club have decided that Ange isnt best placed to take it forward and understand the sacking.

Cos it doesn't back up your opinion hence why you dont like it. Ange promise a trophy and he delivered. Spurs fans will never that day but they won't remember finishing 17th for sure. They will always remember winning that trophies especially those fans at the stadium. I ain't changing my opinion at all. Why don't we leave it there. No one opinion is changing.

Perhaps he should have worded it- No first team ready, signings.

Dunno if it's been mentioned, but De Neve appears to auto qualify for a work permit, with 18 points (15 needed). So he won't take up an ESC slot.

But he promised a trophy and he delivered. Simple as. Not at all a different story. Wigan could have prioritise the league and staying up, they didn't but they won a trophy and that's day is always in Wigan fans memories. Just like our league cup win in 2002. They did win a trophy and with that champions league. They were the favourite for the competition and they delivered and win the competition Poor manager who delivered what he promised. A trophy. That's the true bottom line. Do you think any Spurs fan would swap winning a trophy in order to finish in the top 6? Football should be winning a trophies not finishing top 6. Do you think Spurs fan is that bother who they beat to win their first trophy in years

I have a question for you. Would you take a season here where you have to accept relegation but we win the League Cup? And would you keep Ismael if that happened? I would take that for a memorable trophy win, but also want Ismael out as he would have failed to demonstrate the ability to get results week in week out.

I dont get why this Wigan comparison keeps coming up. I think most would agree that this season for Spurs will be a memorable one and they wouldnt swap it in isolation for a much higher league finish and no trophy. That doesnt mean though that the manager should stay. Results across the whole season have been awful and Ange has not demonstrated that he is the man to take them forward. They would essentially be keeping him on the result of one game against United.

Hopefully the championship wages for bog standard players and young players has been organically capping itself although i think ours has a lot to do with fluffing out the squad with kids.

nice pic

And the club is run by billionaires. They shouldnt require volunteers or fan funded standing sections.

Yup. Rovers' wage bill may have been nominally flat since 2019-20, but just plugging our 2019-20 £25.6m wage bill into the Bank of England's inflation calculator, that's equivalent to £32.7m in today's money, or a ~25% real cut if our wage bill is currently around £25m. Sure, footballers are privileged folk, but their agents will certainly be aware of economy-wide inflation when negotiating new contracts... To be somewhat fair, Championship aggregate wages had been flat/declining for some time due to Covid, plus perhaps a slight regaining of financial sanity by owners, but there was a big jump in 2023-24. Part of that will be due to Luton getting promoted on the cheap (I'd also suspect the rise of immediate parachute club bouncebacks have suppressed the league-wide wage bill), but it'll also reflect the new commercial deal feeding through + general inflation (and keeping the lights on has gotten pricier!) Revenue has been growing too. Obviously rebounding from Covid, but 2022-23 and 2023-24 were mainly due to JDT's Cup runs (which will likely have boosted our player costs too!) and the Championship's league-wide commercial deal improving by a few million.

It would seem that Chorley have had the best part of half a million quids worth of debt to the owner written off in their latest accounts.

Interesting the Jackson seems to think we are still after Sagnan. There can't be a release clause like we initially thought if the alleged bids from Sunderland are £4 million plus. Even if its just the agent drumming interest we would surely be out the running. I wonder if its the first sign of trouble between Ismael and the board; I'd guess he has a better read on French league players than us and he clearly wants a big strong left footed CB. I fear he will disappointed if this is the case...

Talks "not progressing" on Sagnan is the most predictable thing in that article.

de spair!

Can't say I see Marseille swooping in for De Neve, but could be a useful player just for his pace.

They must have misspelled De Lange a couple of windows ago

Yes, they want him to stay now but they were calling for his head for the majority of the season. Wigan is a different situation entirely, as they weren't expecting to be battling it out at the top of the Premier League. Of course they would take a trophy and relegation because it was the only chance of winning a trophy for a long time and they would be battling relegation anyway. Spurs are supposedly a big club, so the media constantly tells us, and so should be battling it out at the top and winning trophies. The bigger picture is, that he looks to be a poor manager despite the trophy win. They've backed him with good money and he's delivered a much needed trophy for the club but taking everything into account, the performances in the Premier League were horrific and it's been a huge factor in his dismissal. Would he have written the league off again from day 1 in order to try and win a trophy in a cup competition? Why bother with a season ticket when you know the manager isn't giving it any serious consideration? Incidentally, had he not beaten the worst Man Utd team for 30 years and was sacked, no one would be batting an eyelid about his dismissal.