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DM asked for an update on behalf of Paul Salmon regarding a letter he wrote which it was agreed would be sent to FIFA, the FA, EFL and The Royal Family. SS stated this letter had been sent. DM expressed disappointment that Paul hadn’t been notified of this. (At the end of the meeting SS clarified that the letter had been sent to Mike Jackman, and not to any of the intended recipients.) Could someone expand on this comment please?

Firstly, I acknowledge any volunteers for giving up their time free of charge and for the perceived betterment of an organisation. Rovers is many folks’ passion and if you think you might make a positive impact and you are willing and have the inclination, then fair play to you. However, in my opinion, when something such as the Fans’ Forum has so apparently become a busted flush, one might assess and reflect whether you are still making a meaningful contribution, or whether perhaps you might possibly be becoming part of the problem, enabling matters to continue unchecked. By which I mean the obvious inaccuracies with regards to what is discussed and what is reported in the minutes. Not to mention holding a mirror up to the Rover’s senior management team as to their actions and when they are failing to be compliant with the EFL’s regulations. I have no idea under what constitution the FF was established (I’ve read what is on Rovers website, which appears to have holes within its narrative) and briefly noted that it was set up in 2002, with then minutes appearing from 2017. There would appear to be a core number of representatives, with a number there from outset. I can see who the members represent in the July minutes yet not in Octobers. My question is to the Chair Mark Hitchen (laughatthedingles ?) and to the Secretary John Wareing (Only2garners ?), at what stage do you decide enough is enough?

Can you upload pictures of the two pages?

When Leamington Road Baptist Church was built, between 1892-1895, their history reports that "A site was purchased in Leamington Street on land formerly used by Blackburn Rovers Football Club" . The ground was in the position shown in green on the illustration above. This was also reported in the Northern Daily Telegraph in April 1893 when the memorial stone was laid..

I wrote a long post here about this process, but have just deleted it because it's a convoluted way of saying much simpler: This is insanity. The entire point of minutes is an agreement from everybody in the room about what was said. If the minutes don't reflect what was said, they should never be agreed to.

Very distasteful that the owners are included in the history book. I think I would rather burn it.

No trains between Preston and Blackburn on Saturday.

They won't make any comment The FF is not fit for purpose. Surely, the FF is supposed to hold those with powers responsible for the decisions made. The FF has lost all credibility, and fans are losing hope. I personally believe the chair and secretary are not fit for purpose in this role if they continue to allow the club to get away with murder

Terrible comparison. Alf knew the system he wanted to play in advance and chose his players to suit the system. He merely swapped Hurst for Greaves. Vi started with a system which didn't work and was forced into a change of system due to injury. Doesn't really matter if we keep winning using the new system however though.

Even so much as a passing reference to that family in India negates any positive there may be about that book and prevents me from buying it. They have brought nothing but shame and damage upon this club and do not deserve to be part of it.

This is what I've been waiting for, how bad is it with regards to the Roa's? It's the one thing that's stopped me buying the book. If it's full of praise for them, it was a pass from me. 2 pages, could possibly handle but it depends.

You think he always planned to play a back 3 and 2 up front but was just waiting all this time for Cantwell to get injured to deploy it?

Big game, bigger than usual crowd, returning manager and players ( or judas and his greedy snakes, depending on which narrative you believe) and of course Blackburn Rovers being Blackburn Rovers. Just when things are finally going well...... Rovers 0 Rovers B 1

John/OTG, I keep offering you the opportunity to proffer some sort of plausible explanation as to why this happened if correct or to deny it if it didnt. Any comment to make?

Yea when Toth wasn't proven in the championship. Pears was.

Absolutely spot on Ian. It was seemingly not that much different when Waggott was here either. "Can't" "Wont" "We weren't aware" "We'll look into it" etc.

Thanks for these. If these minutes are accurate, what an absolute disgrace those responses from the Club are and it just highlights what a farce the Forum has become. My main take outs were: 1) They seem far more worried about who might have leaked any info about the kit situation rather than any substantive issues like "Is it the best deal for the Club/the development of the Club Shop and/ or the Supporters?" £80 for a shirt? Holy Cow! 2) Particularly puzzled by Lynsey Talbot's response that work on a drainage sleeve was "planned for that week" What week? The week of the Portsmouth game? Ipswich game? The same week the Forum was held? Was it ever completed? If so, we've heard nothing whatsoever about it. Is it the standard "we're looking into it" scenario? 3) RG treating people as absolute mugs by claiming we've signed "ten players" when in real terms we sold more than that. (Did no-one pull them up on why Hyam was sold in the last few hours of the window without a suitable replacement?) Also desperately disappointing to see that the resolution of the Court case in the owners' favour won't impact the budget in any way. RG again insulting everyone's intelligence by making out we're working to an agreed "budget" which implies a positive net spend when in reality we were about negative £2m net spend in summer plus presumably substantial wage savings. If the owners have allegedly upped their annual contribution to £20m p.a. - and we've slashed wage costs on players - and made a trading profit in the summer which won't be reinvested in the squad - and it's not being spent on the ground - and it's not being spent on the women's team - where's it all going? 4) They clearly seem to be planning on operating without a CEO going forward or at least leaving it as long as possible. 5) No contrition whatsoever about the fate of the women's side. 6) No acknowledgement whatsoever that the "150th celebrations" have turned into an absolute embarrassment.

Rovers 1965-66. Relegated from the first division that season but the core of the team that I still regard as the best Rovers team I ever saw - and that includes the 1995 side And look at those shirts! The previous V-neck shirt was excellent but this round neck version was stunningly attractive, white shorts and socks (mandatory IMO|) with no logos, no advertising, no player names, just brilliant blue and white halves (with a red number on the back IIRC). The best Rovers shirt of all time - no arguments As a side note, I don't know why Ronnie Clayton has white laces and Mike England has his sleeves rolled up for the photo but they were wonderful players so they're excused

The thing for me is, ive attended in excess of 100 meetings with the club, always minuted the discussion and never once have the club asked for these minutes to be changed (they know the answer id give). They've always been conducted professionally, real questions asked and answers reported. Ive attended one FF. 90% of attendees didnt speak, didn't ask questions and bar listening added no real value. The majority are also self elected and only represent themselves and cant be considered to be elected supporter officials. 2 meetings on the trot minutes challenged after a president was set in the previous meeting. Both times the challenge has been ignored by the secretary and chair who have opted for the clubs minutes. With that doing an injustice to the whole supporter base and those who gave up their free time for free to ask the proper questions. Its an absolute disgrace. Even down to the cosy constitution 2 forum members are agreeing with the club without consultation of the other forum members which they have refused to share bar a paragraph which is to validate the fan engagement plan. Therefore handicapping the work being put in with the independent regulator by WATR. Imo the forum should be disbanded and replaced with a modern democratically elected panel where every single attendee must be elected by the supporter base. It should be open to all with a maximum term for each member. 2 meetings a season is all we've got as comms and the FF are explicit in this.

You are correct, born in Wigan, died in Barrow-in-Furness after becoming a teacher in the town. From Wikipedia A wonderful story! You wouldn't see that in 2025

Cracking work @Shirt of two halves I definitely feel a 'field trip' coming on! Also interesting to see how close it was to Alexandra Meadows, I wonder what the committee/members made of 'the big move' as they relocated just down the road. Staying close isn't such a modern idea after all? Also sort of removes the idea of the slope if the pitch was further down towards Granville Road?

Just a couple of points. I believe Fred Else was from the Wigan area rather than Barrow. The front row of the top picture should read Wharton. Graham, Bell, Higgins, Crossan

Not going mad, Picks is the smaller of the 2.

No idea, does it matter? Was he going to change it anyway? I'm not bothered either way to be honest, it's turned out well up to now.

Didn’t Eustace choose to start Pears ahead of Toth?