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Touche, you'll never see me disagree with that.

I'd take relegation and administration to get rid of these owners. It's soul destroying being owned by these cockroaches.

Worse record than Kean, Ince and Coyle. Let that sink in.

1 win in 15... Au Revoir Monsieur Muppet.

If that means we can start again without Venkys i am all for it.

I don’t see any real fight in us, trying hard is the minimum you expect

Doesn't he already have a worse record than Kean as well?

Ismael should have gone last season in that dire spell of his, he should have gone numerous times this season I can’t wait for todays excuses and the excuses on Monday about the window we are stuffed, the owners, the senior staff - none of them care and I’m starting to not either

A decent would accept the appalling squad , we have ! He would have walked !

Miller has the worst 'long' throw of any long throw specialist I've seen. Can't get it any where near the 6 yard box.

We don’t see him day in, day out, so when we do and all you see is hands in his pockets, head down, and a blank expression, it doesn’t exactly paint a great picture. If that’s what he’s like all the time and he was my manager, I’d be sprucing up my CV and quietly looking for the exit. I'd have more sympathy for him had he not come out with the same claptrap as the higher ups.

Just put us into administration and be done with it.

Our only potential saving grace is WBA are dropping at a rate of knots and we have a game in hand. But it's still irrelevant when we persist with this dud who can't win for love nor money.

Never forget why we have a wank manager and a wank squad. WANK OWNERS

This ref has really let himself down in the second half.

It's what our opponents get.

What has De Neve done since coming on?

As they say down here in Cornwall "Matter do it?"

We haven't had an effort at goal since they scored on 81 mins, that tells you everything you need to know about Venky's Rovers.

Thing is I really don’t think ismael is under any pressure of losing his job, that would cost money. More likely he walks due to being let down in the transfer market, he challenged recruitment at the start of the window and they haven’t delivered - as expected

Any other club and he’d be sacked. Been ‘kin useless since the day he arrived. Clueless manager. In the same ‘club’ as Kean, Appleton & Coyle.

We just lack real quality. They are trying their best, hence not losing 3, 4 or 5. A narrow defeat to an in form team. We are just not very good, especially upfront.

We’d be only marginally better off, this is the worst set of players of my lifetime. Ismael is wank though.

What’s a win?

Borderline, whoever is left of the 3 at the back for us may be playing him on