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Not downplaying what has happened to the women but the same thing (only marginally less blatant) thats happening to the men?

I know the commentators were raving about Anderson (and trying to excuse the performance in general) but I didnt think he was that good. "Capable" was the way I'd describe his performance. I think we'd have seen a lot more from Wharton had he played against that sort of opposition but on the basis that possession is nine tenths of the law that is a worry. He needs to get himself fit and stay fit and force himself back into the reckoning.

made more than enough comments over the contract situations over certain players but I know which players have signed new contracts and haven't.

Yes I know what I said thanks but I also that Dolan wasn't ever going to say and that was 19 months when GB tried to get him to sign a new contract and was stonewall I never said players were greedy did I? yet again, making up points to suit your own opinion. two great head coaches? abit over the top here with the word great? Great managers of Rovers are former managers like Sir Kenny Dalglish or Graeme Souness or Mark Hughes not John Eustace or JDT a division we were have been in the playoff hunt in the 3 seasons out of 4. I would suggested Rev, that you actually look at what I have posted about that, cos I have said something has clearly happened behind the scenes since the players came back from pre season, something I said repeatably which is what I said last week Rev and over the weekend

He's repeating it because he's right. You must know he is. Why not just accept it's completely unacceptable to be this bad at contract renewals for so long? We can discuss individual circumstances til the cows come home, and some maybnot have been renewable realistically, but no properly functioning club does this badly with so many contract renewals. It's not really up for debate, it's only possible for it to be rank incompetence or excessive cost cutting.

Nail,hammer, head. For all the praise in certain quarters about "spending £12m" or "spending "£4m -£5m over the transfer budget" it had to be done simply so we could put a vaguely competitive looking side out** The transfer business this summer was about desperately trying to plug some of the holes left by outgoing players for less money. It wasn't an intentional attempt to improve the squad. It wasn't a case either of us selling one player for a huge sum and then being in a position to spend a fraction of that on a replacement and pocket the rest like when Wharton or even Szmodics were sold. **Sadly, probably not competitive enough.

Anderson was up against poor opposition, who gave him the freedom of the midfield. He looked good compared to the rest , who were below the standard required for a top international side.

Yeah - the question that needs to be asked is what is the advantage for any of those players to extend their contract? Why does anyone extend their contract with an employer? 1) You are offered more money (we have only done that recently when it is guaranteed we will attract big fees for the player e.g. Wharton, Szmodics) 2) You maybe don't get more money, but you buy into the long term vision of the employer and feel a valued part of a longer term plan where you can see how you grow and you enjoy your work. The way we operate completely and utterly undermines this. For all those players, especially with the well worn path to free transfer / sale mapped out from Lenihan and BBD to Travis and Dolan, why on earth would you commit early? Just wait to get to the end of your contract and look for a better option. The reason it's so important to get rid of venkys is while we may be in an even worse position in terms of money (although it's getting to the point now I am wondering about that), we can go some way to mitigating that through having good long term planning and operating like a somewhere with a vision and a good place to work longer term.

Wow. Para 1) Pretending Dolan doesnt count as a player who refused to sign a new deal this summer. Classy. You yourself said you would have offered to put Dolan into our top bracket of earners on £15 k p.w. which clearly never happened Para 2) You can insist it's all down to greedy players/agents if you like but in the last few seasons we've seen at varying levels Rothwell/Lenihan/Nyambe/Brereton/Dolan/Travis/Brittain/Hyam/Batth and Weimann all refuse to commit to new deals. That's if they were ever offered anything at all. Just the odd ten players. And driven out two great Head Coaches in the process. Never the Club's fault, always the greedy players huh? Para 3) It's useless setting a wage cap if it's too low for the Division we are in Para 5) The Pears "situation" appears to be that he's been completely frozen out therefore we're paying him good money for absolutely nothing. Seems to be acknowledged by Jackson at the LT. Are you denying that's the case? Para 6) We didn't bring in a Hyam replacement so thats why there is debate. No point saying "it would have been ok if we'd done X,Y or Z". We didn't!

do you think I don't already know this??? you are obsess and fixation on this issue. Dolan was never signing a new contract here.

Also Hendry was sold in 1998

Looking at anderson's performance on Saturday, Wharton might struggle to get that number 6 role

History tells us that they don't want, or know how to renegotiate current contracts, so I fully believe this to be the case.

Short sighted, deliberate sabotage.

I would hazard a guess that Ribeiros extension was triggered due to games/minutes played, rather than we negotiated a new contract with him He signed for Rovers 3rd Feb He then started in in 9 out of 10 games Before his extended contract was announced 3rd April The "9 out of 10 games part" (90% of available minutes), right before signing his extension, just has the feel of an extension being triggered, rather than a new deal being negotiated

It would be good to see the other side too such as ongoing expenses, wages and running costs. Wages to revenue figures etc. Seems a bit harsh to call people absolute lemons just because they want to see the club run prudently (i.e. Not need the Venky input at all).

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Its only Ribeiro as a first teamer (and even he was a weird short term deal that then got extended) out of any of our players that have signed new contracts over the last 2 seasons. That is the fact. Go off on all the tangents you like to try and justify it, but that is not normal. Brittain, Travis, Dolan, Batth, Hyam, Weimann. And Tronstad also unsigned. But yes, just 3.

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Crystal Palace's mega Million's Asset will get THE very best Medical treatment money can buy...stop your fretting!

Wharton's injury problems look very similar to the problems Pedri had after playing so many games whilst his body was still maturing. It's taken Pedri several years to have a consistent season form and injury wise.

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Its 3 players who have left this summer. Dolan was always going. We have recoup around 9/10 million pounds for those 3 players. So if I making making assumptions on wage demands then surely it yourself blaming Rovers and totally and utter resolving the players or agents off any blame So its quite clear we have a limit on what we will pay and we won't pay above that. you complain about us not paying enough then in other topic you complain about players taking all the money out of game and fans being ignored I'm not the one who complained about Ismael answering the question directly and proper instead of not. He did that with the Brittain situation and he was the Travis situation. He is straight to the point and doesn't sugar coated situation. Pears situation? what is the situation? please tell us all full defence of what? I have said Rovers were wrong to sell Hyam so late and without any form of proper replacement. Had Rovers sold Hyam and then brought in a replacement like Callum Chambers or Mattie Pollock then none of this would be a debate

Wouldn't be too bothered about that part to be fair. This lot don't deserve to make another penny off him, I hope he leaves on a free.

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