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Tends to happen here though these days with regularity despite whose in the technical area but yes he took it to extremes. Whoever comes in here has the number 1 remit of getting mins into as many as possible to increase vale.

Looking like a good bet

It could lift the gloomy atmosphere at Ewood tomorrow night, a new man in the dugout, and we've signed a winger, and if I heard correctly, a 19 year old striker.

If you read any threads about him on Watford or WBA forums, you'll discover the sub thing is pure Ismael.

Absolute rubbish Gav. He had to go. Should have gone in summer and in terms of this season at least a month too late but better than nothing. Unless of course they're thinking of not replacing him at all like Waggott but even then Id fancy Damien Johnson to have more of a chance of keeping us up than that plonker. Im delighted at the news. Doesn't matter who comes in, I feel now we have a slight chance of staying up as opposed to no chance.

Luis Boa Morte, that's the one I had in mind, and George Boateng. God help us if Suhail and Gestede go back in for them.

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My thoughts too. He was talking about himself possibly leaving in his post match interview. He knew it was over - and yes nobody - not even Venkys - wouldn’t have someone lined up for the interim.

Judan Ali? (someone had to mention him)

I don’t think he would entertain these idiots, Rowett doesn’t suffer fools and generally calls them out.

I would imagine Bilic will be used to a hefty pay packet too after recent spells in China and Saudi Arabia. So unless he's really desperate to get back into English football after 18 months out of management I can't see it. Someone more obscure, desperate and pliable is needed.

I agree he will see his stock as still much too high for a relegation scrap at the bottom of the second tier. He probably would have come this time last year to a squad in and around the top six but not this guff. It's a world cup year, he'll probably hedge his bets on getting the call from BBC and ITV to do tournament coverage as he's done a few times previously, rather than running round Brockhall tearing his hair out.

A change of management used to be a time for optimism. Discussing who might get the job next, what he might look to do, who he might bring with him, what that could lead to. Even when we were struggling, like after Souness and Hughes walked and Ince was sacked, it was still a time for some optimism looking at what might come next and where it might lead us. Now? Nothing. The conditions are such that even if good managers were interested in the job the stooges would either ignore them or look to impose conditions making it unacceptable to anyone decent, or even if they got someone decent they'll last a season if lucky before this regime forces them out elsewhere. Not because they are inundated with bigger and better offers but because they can't cope working for this awful organisation any longer. I'm serious - even if we appointed Jurgen Klopp tonight I'd be cynical and negative about it because after recent experiences we know they'd find a way to wreck it quickly.

Who was the guy who was reported to be in running last time, with no experience at all?

Good move for Charlie they loved him there last season.

The Bilic talk is surely pie in the sky stuff. He's too high profile for them and won't put up with any crap. I'd be happy with the appointment, but just can't see it happening. What I think is more likely to happen is this lot getting on the blower to their agency pals for ideas. I think they will put forward Lee Bowyer and Karanka as options. I had Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink down as a potential pick too based on his agency friendships, but he has just recently joined his home nation, Suriname, as Assistant Manager. That probably rules him out. I said a couple of months ago that I expect Lee Bowyer replaces Ismael when the time comes. I'll stick with that call. I want Bilic or somebody of that ilk, though.

Glad to see you back posting, your honest and genuine match summaries have been missed.

Largely? That putting it lightly

best signing of the window his termination notice.

No striker now, the excuse will be we didn't see the point in case he didn't fit in with the next managers plans. Convenient!!

When Kean went I remember opening a good bottle of red ….how silly , not, at that stage , realising we would have this dreadful regime what feels like forever. Moving through “ their” agents in appointing shocking leaders like Waggott and Gestede and fall guys with no ability or care for this club to “ manage” I couldn’t , today, even open a bottle of cheap plonk….Decent blokes , JDT and Eustace among ‘em walked ..I’ve walked and the end of Ismael offers me no comfort…a mere symptom . …and, if the answer is Karanka what on earth is the question.

100%

We're more likely to end up with Father Damien from Father Ted than we are with Damien Duff Here he is, giving instructions to De Neve:

Correct. It's Damien.

Sacking Ismail a diversion tactic so we dont notice nobody coming in on deadline day ?