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He was injured remember.

No chance the ‘sold’ tickets were 13,500, so 4,000+ bought walk ons? For a red button midweek in November? That’s considerably more than any Saturday game this season (bar Derby).

Not so sure he’s Kean or Coyle bad, but he’s not very good either. I can’t warm to the guy either. Seems very arrogant.

It’s tickets sold, t’was ever thus. We know that isn’t the real number of bums on seats. I’ve been counted for every Tuesday night home match, but I haven’t attended one….

The Isley Brothers - This Old Heart Of Mine (Is Weak For You)

Normally i'd agree but my point here is it looks like the finance guy V's stuck on the board quite recently is just here to run the lowest budget model possible for them. Whilst keep us just above the admin line and second or thirdly keeping us in this league in order to maximise future player sale prices. I genuinely think the dwindling crowds will just be seen as - or should i say passed off as - a combination of collateral damage from cost of living crisis,fan favs wanting out, weather and oh just Rovers typical support (they used to get 7k) etc. In short anything and everything they can blame except the main drivers of it. So to counter this prices go up, more silly cat A games like Wrexham and come Jan he'll look to shave more thousands per week off the wage bill. Because that's his job nothing else, a reactionary to the balance sheet not the football. The lack of footfall just justifies his position imo and that's what i'm trying to get across. These loons will run the club into the ground in front of 5k if that's what it becomes.

Trouble is anyone with anything about them wants out after 6 months. Depends how long your definition of short term is.

So they are saying aside from QPR's merry band 4 k bought tickets ? There needs to be some serious questions asked now about what they are fabricating down there. The last crowd almost identical to that in the home sections was about 11k ish i think. The JW holds what 9.5k ? Could easily group everybody in the ground in there last night including the away fans. The actual number of turnstile clicks in the 3 home stands must've been sub 9k.

Plenty of half rows empty on jw upper

Looked like there were about 6k on on TV.

13,571

Just to reinforce the above, I checked and we've only been in front in ONE out of 8 games at Ewood this season at HT. (Sheff Utd. which we went on to lose 3-1) The one game we won (Southampton) we were behind until the 76th minute. Put another way we've only been ahead for 74 of the 720 minutes (plus ET) of League Football at Ewood Park this season. 40 of those were in one game (Birmingham) which we contrived to lose right at the end anyway. How on earth is the atmosphere meant to be rocking, or even vaguely positive, under those circumstances?

How do clubs ever sign players in January transfer windows who then go straight into starting line-ups then? He's been around the squad all season. Surely he understands the system. If he's significantly better than TGH and Montgomery then he's worth starting for the improvement in quality.

Again, I dont think that's fair. A core group will always go no matter what - whether it's 3k or 8k - and I applaud them for their loyalty and dedication. I mean 2k even bought tickets for a season they couldnt attend and even after Waggott put prices up.! Arguably however, having a smallish number of fans in attendance who've been brow beaten into submission by watching absolute shite over a period of years and knowing that at the end of the day there's no ambition within the Club for things to improve is the worst possible situation. Hypothetically a complete boycott might have a better chance of shifting the owners and their acolytes as might a stadium packed to the rafters every week with 30 thousand people screaming non stop dogs abuse at the 2 stooges and displaying anti Venky's messages. For the present however it's 100% for the players to entertain the fans and give them something to shout about, not the other way round. The players are being paid very handsomely to do a job and the fans are paying good money to watch them. At the moment they can't even be bothered putting in any effort in the first half of games at Ewood and any improvement generally only comes in the second half or late on in the game when trying to retrieve the situation and salvage a result. At least, regardless of ability, come out on the front foot and give the fans a bit of something to get their teeth into.

I did not criticize, what I said was that I didn't feel sorry for the people who bought season tickets. Everyone has the right to make their own choices. They don't deserve either criticism or plaudits for making their own decisions.

Nevermind bottling it, we’re a club with a history of pushing the big boys around when they come into our yard. We’re 20 years removed from doing the double over Manchester fucking United. Now we cower at the likes of Birmingham and Swansea when they come here.

Attendance anyone?

Agree. Whilst he remains and they clearly trust him as long as he's collecting his pay packet and playing god at Ewood whilst filtering back to India that all is well they'll probably just leave it and trust that things keep on ticking over. If he goes as you say they'll never bring in competent empowered people to run it. So either they have to plant another stooge to do his job or cut it off even more. I don't read anything into Pasha suggesting we might be for sale at the right price. I doubt he knows any more about the legal owners' intentions than anyone else. I reckon he is just told every summer to run it within certain budgets and that's that. I think during / after COVID the money people took control as opposed to the gruesome four who are in ultimate control. Now it is just a cost management exercise. To what end nobody really knows. Clearly the tab previously was causing them some problems, requiring drastic quasi-administration level cutbacks and reductions. So perhaps when the tab starts creeping back up again and they've no sales to plug it with we might see some action. At the moment they seem content to manage as a lower cost base, but if we remain in this league they won't be able to sustain it.

Is a Zombie alive? Your post was very fair. Thats where I was at a few years ago, I tipped over the side eventually.

They really didnt. Venkys did long before that. When they bought the club.

I'll also add... that back 3 is in the position I'd expect it to be in, play it again, I wasn't shocked..... is it effective or needed there? No. A back 4 deals with that cross and a full back is facing the ball as it comes over. 3 centre backs, marking 2 attackers so 1 centre back is completely free ..... McLoughlin, marking a zone and the ball goes in, free header. We're seeing a lot of untracked back post headers because of it despite the better overall form. Yes De Neve was useless..... but is he a player you really want responsible for preventing goals? We could have gone to QPRs shape in this fixture and brought on a solid full back. QPR had no height. We need to be braver at home and make the changes before the opposition do. For the record, I don't rate Ismael at all. He's a reactive coach and his subs are often too many at once.

But actively cheer it's death on from your seat

He defended that like a winger, not a full back, or even a wing back.

They started the ball rolling in that respect.

It's totally unacceptable from De Neve. Who so far has proved a very poor signing. Along with others. Not up to it.