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Next seasons ST sales and home turnouts will be catastrophic from the work go and there's no way that can be dressed up as anything else other than a boycott. As pointed out a few times when people are left to make their own minds up and aren't playing the martyr for either side just finding their own excuses not to go the proof will be in the pudding. Yes 5 or 6k will always be there but we'll then have dropped from 12k hardcore to half in twelve months and that cannot be ignored by anybody. Unless we get relegated then it'll just be 'shit support' of course.

James Bord is supposedly the preferred bidder for Sheffield Wednesday. Also owns Dunfermline and ex professional poker player. Owns consultancy firm Short Circuit Science, which specialises in data analytics and AI.

The call for a boycott is a starting point. I don't think there are many Rovers fans who have not heard about it - so that is a start - get people thinking, get people talking and get the spotlight on Venky's in general and Pasha in particular. It is an initial step and if most fans ignore it - as you suggest will be the case - then other options will be considered. Things that will get more people on board are a run of bad results/relegation/bad transfer dealings. All those things will happen sooner or later under the current set up but if we wait until things are that bad, the call for a boycott will just appear to be reactionary. I think it is a good idea to 'get our retaliation in first' and it shouldn't stop after the Watford game whether there is 1 person there or 20,000 there.

We've probably got the best defence in the league before 88 minutes, but we've no resilience, game management, 'match IQ' or whatever we want to call it, which has stemmed from poor investment in players and managers.

Exactly.

I don't think there is anything that can be done which hasn't already been done in the last 15 years, which isn't illegal. Fans have involved MPs, spoken to regional, national, international press, supporter federations, protested inside the ground, outside the ground, brought livestock into the ground, done planned walkouts, thrown a snowball, chanted endlessly, made banners and at least two thirds of the fan base have just stopped attending. No one outside of East Lancashire cares about the issue. I'm not aware of anything else that people can do. Emptying the stadium is the one final thing which hasn't been done.

The only point in digi tickets from their end is saving money from having to physically print and sell them. Beyond that they don't give a toss, same as most businesses.

De Neve is proof you have to have defensive awareness as a LWB. Of the current squad, I don’t think any are suited to that role, but Pickering is possibly my preferred choice of the 4 options. Followed by Hedges. It’s not like he’s cumbersome going forward, just limited. However it is fairly obvious he will leave due to wages and rubbing Gestede / Pasha up the wrong way. If we were mid table fine, but in a relegation battle not using your best assets is shocking and could prove very costly (See Nelson, Ryan)

No Rev I interviewed every fan on the way in on Saturday 🙄 It’s called ‘anecdotal’. I am telling you now that 5/6,000 people at least will be in the ground, ergo it can’t be deemed a success as a ‘boycott’. Like I said if that doesn’t matter as it’s all part of a bigger campaign, then fine (which of course begs the question, why do it at all and not focus on other things that do work in and of themselves)

Boycott the evening with Valerian.

How many match day fans did you ask on Saturday? what did they say? The concourse at half time was very busy in BBE. I posted what the people I asked said. The club shop would have been busy in the last couple of days I bet. People will be attending the Wrexham game and Charlton games as people would have bought tickets as Christmas presents.

Season ticket renewals seems to be one of the very few metrics that motivates Suhail…

It’s the start of what will almost certainly have to be a long (& divisive) campaign. …if the alternative is 15 more years of death of a thousand cuts, then…🤷‍♂️

The Christmas kit…🙂🎅

So you've spoken to a handful of people and are citing that as evidence a boycott "won't work?"

And you’ve repeatedly said how it’s a good idea when the evidence of actual fans that still go says the exact opposite. Protesting by numbers instead of thinking what will actually work. But if we don’t actually need boycotting fans for a boycott to be a success as we’ll actually judge it on having a few weeks of an odd press article before the media moves on, then fine.

Because, regardless of take up its still getting the issues into the public domain. We get it, you dont think a boycott will have much take up, you've told us nearly as often as chaddy has said he won't be boycotting. We'll have to wait and see.

Our bowlers don't have miles in their bodies for test matches. they need to bowl and bowl to get match sharpness in county cricket.

That twitter account is a bit of a clown show so take it with a pinch of salt. On the previous debate I think Callum Brittain is a class act and definitely one of the best right backs in the league; Alebiosu for me has potential to be better and it’s certainly a worthy debate to suggest he may already be.

Jason Lowe is another level to Tavares, Sidnei not fit to lace Jason's boots.

One thing I have been thinking about regarding the boycott. Even if the owners themselves don't hear about it, or don't care, it would send an alarming message to everyone else in the club. Players and coaches might start to think that something is seriously wrong (those who don't already realise and are prepared to block it out), they might start getting on to their agents to look elsewhere. It might start some awkward conversations in the club that pasha and rudy can't ignore. Crunch time is going to be May and season ticket renewals, regardless of the division we're in. They won't have a "150th anniversary. Be a part of the story" strap line to guilt trip me.

second that. @Mattyblue is correct

The Rolling Stones - Pain In My Heart Merry Christmas to everyone. 🌲🎅🍾 Thanks for keeping this thread going for so long.

Fantastic

Maybe there is a better way to communicate to the wider football community the scale of resentment and apathy at the club. There's a few news articles, local and national that acknowledge "attendances are down". That's not the same as saying "when Venkys bought the club, gates were 24,000, now sometimes they're below 7,000 and the club are publishing official attendances which are way higher. During the period of their ownership almost every club in England has seen a rise in average attendance and BRFC buck this trend."