I didn't really rate Saxton tbh but 6th and 5th is still better than we've managed in the last 15 years. I was thinking more specifically of the Don Mackay era.

Gotta take down the guards before you storm the castle

Where ever its played I say we turn out for it.

Bit of revisionism methinks. Under Saxton, before Jack started paying for stuff, we finished 10th, 11th, 6th, 5th 19th and 12th, not much different to our last few years.

No, one bloke, just a bit schizo. Any news about comings or goings, amongst the intra-cranial bickering?

But it won’t be true at all levels of football. The further you go down the heap the less two footed players can be. How many times have you seen a right footed defender cock up a clearance because a) they miss kicked because they’re weaker on their left side b) they tried to make what should be a left footed clearance into a right footed one. Also it’s not just about passing the ball out efficiently, it’s also about tackling off your dominant side and being comfortable jockeying opponents down that side. Not ever right footer is effective at perfoming these tasks on the left flank.

That will be reflective at all levels of football. Craig Short and and Henning Berg were both right footed last time we got out of this league. If you have a choice of centre backs you think are even then get the left footer, but ultimately you should be getting the best defenders we can you can with our budget, not limiting our options by eliminating approximately 80% of the potential centre backs we could be looking at.

My objective is not just to parrot what Ismael says he wants. I can have my own opinions outside of this. It is allowed. I don't see how resigning Forshaw and Hedges fits into any of these profiles for example. Just wastes resources on inadequate players.

It’s not a witch hunt, it’s you calling it that not me. I just want to know, why the two sets of minutes differ so much and maybe you will also when you get round to reading them both.

You’re quoting players of absolute top level international class. They’re probably extremely comfortable playing off either side. Unfortunately we aren’t shopping in that market anymore. In our current impoverished state having a left footer and right footer makes sense. You only had to watch McCloughlin passing it out yesterday to realise that.

They’re ambivalent about it. If the balance sheet dictates it they’ll be good with that.

Ok but that assumes they're prepared to assume losses of tens of millions of pounds to pocket a few agent's fees. Im not against anything that can be proven that shows wrongdoing on the part of the owners Im trying to figure out how it stacks up. If that happened I think it comes under the envelope of Venky's being the real owners but being completely negligent and therefore the Club being ripped off, not for the first time imo.

Twins, separated at birth?

Money left in the club would be swallowed up by the club’s losses. Money taken out the club would add to the club’s loss but be in their pocket(s).

It was my mistake to the extent I thought it was you who'd coined the phrase "witch hunt". Maybe it was chaddy? On checking you actually used the phrase "outright harassment" which imo is equally sensationalist. Why is it a crime to wonder why Forum minutes "appear" to have been edited or doctored or even embellished to make the Club look better? And In what sense does 02G not have the opportunity to comment or defend himself? Im sure he will once he returns from holiday.

Did we have any left footed CBs in 94 - 95? I don’t think we did.

Agree they don't want relegation. They just don't care if the current plan ends in relegation. If it does then they will just make further cuts.

Agree with that bit, still dont think they WANT relegation, which imo they're taking a hell of a risk on.

I think they’re fact that you’ve described it yourself as ‘a witch hunt’ tells its own story. I disagree with a poster being rounded on without the opportunity to defend themselves. As should any right-thinking person. For a good couple of days certain posters have practically been begging Glen to throw O2G under the bus. There is a tone of ‘Go on Glen, name and shame, who should we hate next?’, and I’m glad he clearly has the restraint to have not done so. Whatever people may think of the minute-taking, I got the feeling from a number of posts since the first mention of his being on holiday that they wanted specifically to target O2G for some sort of character assassination. Perhaps my post was an over correction, but as a Mod, I want this place to remain a welcoming place, particularly for Rovers fans, and especially so for those fans who give their time to more than most fans do. I also felt that if K-Hod were to have made a similar post, he would have been accused of nepotism or sticking up for the club or some other nonsense. I was simply trying to nip in the bud any suggestion that O2G has maliciously done anything wrong, and (as I stated) focus ire on the actual wrong-doers. My own takeaway from the most recent minutes is that the mechanism of them being delivered needs to change a bit. As an example: When I take minutes of RT (or other) meetings, I make sure anyone who wants specific things mentioning to write them down in real time and pass to me at the end of the meeting. That way I collate everything agreeable. If anyone wants something omitting that someone else wants mentioning, then tough, it gets mentioned in the interests of honesty unless it specifically needs to be off record.

venkys don`t want promotion,hence val and his team are doing a great job,sign a lot of players from the various 2nd divisions of europe then sell your best players,,it`ll kerp you away from those nasty promotion places,they`ll mosr likely give him a new contract next season for all his good work🤧

And "the Club" poorer. Just thinking Ira's theory through - hypothetically if the Club was really owned by agents then you'd have no need to transfer money outside the Club as you already own it. However if Venky's own it but have given unscrupulous types licence to run it on their behalf then you'd need to get money out of the Club to prosper and that's one pretty decent way, to needlessly appoint yourself as agent for the Club on any sale. IF any of the above occurred you'd expect the other appointed Club officials to step in and stop it.

Modern football myths exposed. ✅ Partnerships with a Right-Footed + Left-Footed Duo 1. Rio Ferdinand (Right) & Nemanja Vidić (Left) ⚖️ Classic balanced pairing. Ferdinand on the right, Vidić on the left. 2. Sergio Ramos (Right) & Raphaël Varane (Right) ❌ Both right-footed. 3. Franco Baresi (Right) & Alessandro Costacurta (Right) ❌ Both right-footed. 4. Carles Puyol (Right) & Gerard Piqué (Right) ❌ Both right-footed. 5. Ronald Koeman (Right) & Frank Rijkaard (Right) ❌ Both right-footed (Rijkaard sometimes played in midfield though). 6. Lucio (Right) & Walter Samuel (Left) ✅ Balanced pairing. Lucio right-footed, Samuel left-footed. 7. Tony Adams (Right) & Steve Bould (Right) / Martin Keown (Right) ❌ All right-footed. 8. Fabio Cannavaro (Right) & Alessandro Nesta (Right) ❌ Both right-footed. 9. Laurent Blanc (Right) & Marcel Desailly (Right) ❌ Both right-footed. 10. Mats Hummels (Right) & Jérôme Boateng (Right) ❌ Both right-footed.

I have said my part on this to you whilst 2 members of FF have said O2G isn't to blame here but yet you continue this personal witch hunt of yours. I have nothing to add to my original post on this.

Translation: "I agree with selling Travis now VI has hinted at it".

But surely you are interested in reading what the Fans Forum members say happened in the meeting? They will show you the absolute incompetence of Suhail Pasha and the extent that the football club will go to in order to avoid publishing the truth. So please make sure you read the ones I have linked you to. I posted the link because it's been 4 days since they have been on here and you haven't commented on them, which is strange considering their content. Therefore I thought you may not have seen them. You're welcome 👍 Of course feel free to read them in your own time.