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When you thought the club couldn't plumb new depths, they have fallen to a new low. The shocking thing is, you probably couldn't think of a more milquetoast reporter than Elliot Jackson, but even he was enough to ruffle the feathers at the club into blackballing the LET. Just goes to show how vulnerable Pasha and Rudy are without Waggott's spin-doctoring.

Id say we were that last season. However blessed with an excellent manager who managed to turn muddy water into a palatable house wine. This season .........God only knows.

The reality is we don't even have enough leadership to even attempt to fix or improve our drainage. Structurally off the field the club is arguably in the worst position it's been in since Venky's took over. There is no one with the clubs best interests at heart, who knows what they're doing, in any position of power .... typically that leads to relegation.

Had to stop reading this thread due to the ridiculous propaganda supporting Gestedes exciting summer. What a shambles of a transfer window. Replaced Travis with Tavares? Hyam not replaced. It's been an absolute disaster.

It's scandalous that an ex-player who went on protest to secure a move elsewhere is now part of our executive team. A sign of the times when it comes to this farce of a football club.

We are lacking two things needed to avoid relegation at the moment - quality and luck.

We're a bog-standard Championship side. A good run and we're in with a playoff shout (before it's internally sabotaged). A few bad results and we're in a relegation battle.

Probably why he never made a name for himself....... at any of his former clubs........🤔💡

Tavares is one of the worst CMs I've ever seen

Does he have pace? He looked like he was running through treacle today and offered nothing when he came on.

Didn’t see any of today but sounds like a deserved thumping. Hard to judge if it means anything as think we have done ok in our other games so far. hopefully two home wins coming up to make us all feel better as looking bad points wise so far.

Tbh, Elliotts latest podcast with Ryan I berated. Due to how toned down and suddenly supportive it had become in the space of a week. But now it makes absolute sense.

As I said when he first came in. HE IS A TERRIBLE TERRIBLE MANAGER.

Fucking hell, recurring theme this. Obviously different and totally unavoidable reasons here, but that's 3 games abandoned in a week, and in the two I've heard the scores of we were winning 1 nil in both. Bizarre.

Rudy said this squad is stronger than last season, so by his logic we should be in the play-off spots, not getting completely and utterly destroyed by Charlton.

Just another day in the rollercoaster. You can use this performance as an argument for relegation. Or you can reflect back on performances against Ipswich/Hull and think usual mid to lower half plodding. TBH, I think the league is so poor we will have enough. Interestingly, for the first 15-20, thought we looked ok (if not exciting) and they looked dire -lumberers who were never going to score (their record for scoring not good). Was thinking at that stage how poor the championship really is. But then for 10 mins or so before the first goal on 31 min, they did really well breaking play up in their own third and hitting great long balls which caused us all sorts of trouble (and that was with Wharton playing well). Then the goal (simple free kick to far post, header, goal). After that, we offered nothing. Hedges should have been booked Miller should have had 2 yellows and off Pen wasn’t a pen Pickering could have been booked late on Don’t think there is anyone on our side who can take a striker like their 2nd? We had one shot on target? Ohashi –who some say is crap (not me). Meanwhile Gaye, offside again. Gud (who some think should start) –first 2 touches lost it, overpowered in midfield, offered little. Rovers crossing (mainly Cantwell) poor. Disjointed overall, not sure what the plan was. To be fair to Gud and Gaye, if you are going to play them, then you have to give them time and play to their strengths with good crosses. Gardner Hickman is a utility player who can plug gaps (but not right back). Pointless berating him. Why not bring on McLoughlin and move Miller to RB? Incidentally, he looked like a second rate Scottish player. Tronstad disinterested? Indeed. Wonder why that is? Counting down the days to escape the Stasi and shitshow. Cantwell was looking for fouls that MAY have been given in the prem but was poor in a game like this. Charlton were rudimentary but nothing untoward –blaming the ref (as per) is just nonsense. Don’t know about you, but I’m a bit sick of these journey men on easy street who haven’t delivered anything for years. Time to move them on and bring in fresh, hungry players (irony just to be clear). I do hope EJ delivers an uncompromising report.

Was it the weather or the penny-pinching tools in charge?

Yeah, we're transitioning into an exhilarating high tempo, high pressing game with a team of athletic players. Oooh errrr..... hang on.....

I don't like Tavares at all he is weak and sureenders possesion all the time one way or another. Bad move bringing him on. MoriSHITa was awful today, Gudjohnson never got a kick, Big Mac was BigMac his Denielson do has not changed his habit of being offside.

The interviewer needs to be careful, or he will get banned. Only nice things allowed in the press.

A game to add to so many in recent years were we have not shown up. A goal down has had an instant feel of certain defeat, which came true. The team at the end felt like square pegs in round holes and so disjointed, even the most blue and white bespectacled fan must see how thin the squad is going to be when we have a few injuries.

Do they really think we go to a local rag to get our information lol

Caught Ismael’s radio Lancs interview. All angry about the penalty decision and the ref winking at Cantwell. Took the interviewer to point out that, regardless of that, we were pretty shit all afternoon.

I was thinking that the freak weather last week robbed us of a nice league run of 3 wins out of 4 going into today. We'd have been looking up rather than down,what difference 10 minutes and a week make.

Politicians do it all the time. They then release 2 or 3 stories per week every week in the lead up to election day.