Ah but we need to see if they deserve an extension based on results this season, who knows what division we will be in and the budget...

They’ve obviously given up trying to renew the ‘26 expiries but have they even started trying with the ‘27 ones?

Plenty of money around for the training ground ‘upgrades’ too.

He has a mate?

Believe me, after 48 years of supporting Rovers, it’s becoming more difficult to put the effort in.

Apparently the cut is so bad he is a doubt for next Saturday, never mind continuing at the Hawthorns. Big Question is what the WBA defender did to him in what should have been an innocuous challenge. Is Ismael counting Buckley and Pears when he is saying one more and replacements??? If Travis also goes that is four more signings to come and boy do we need better than the signings so far this window.

Is anyone actually surprised?

Bradford are a banana skin not dissimilar to Blackpool last year. We need a run to give fringe players a game.

Yeah I know. Just highlighting that both poor decisions probably get overturned.

One thing to say on this and granted we don’t know the extent of this yet. If as you say, this has come about, as a result of the fans forum explosion. Here we are after one meeting, where we had hard hitting minutes, yet we have some people saying it’s unfair having a go about version 1 or minutes from previous meetings. Would this have happened, had version 1 been allowed to stand?

I thought we did okay today. Hendrickson should have been off after 15mins, got lucky there. I think the most disappointing part is that we chased the game for a long time and were pretty pathetic creating chances. We need a right winger and another striker Monday morning. Missing Cantwell hurt. When are we going to stop pretending that Kargbo isn’t our best player. Seriously. Total embarrassment bringing him on at half time every week when we have no punch. You carry a player like that.

It's not as simple as that is it? If we went 1 nil up just before half time, the second half could have been totally different to the way it played out with us being 1 nil down.

For all the moaning about VAR, the scoreline is probably reversed today if we had access to it.

Just watching Sky highlights - WBA player basically threw Alebiouse to the ground in the lead up to their goal. Amazed the goal stood.

Ok, but that was exactly the point I was arguing when you initially quoted me.

To be fair, although some of the foundations may have been in place, Ismael certainly did an excellent job at Barnsley to finish 5th. He had a very direct style there and it was really effective. He also was a trendsetter in using the newly allowed 5 subs during covid really aggressively, he would burn out the starters for 60 and always make wholesale changes. He seems to have totally moved away from those successful traits though. Whether its the higher expectations at the clubs since, or the fact that it feels like results are almost becoming secondary in how managers are judged/how likely they are to be employed. It feels nowadays that youd be more attractive to a chairman and a club if you finished 14th but playing "pretty" high possession football over rough housing your way to 5th. Today we dominated the ball but didnt create a single decent chance. Boring to watch and ineffective.

I very much doubt that with the present squad 😭

I know I wasn't, I watched the first half on Sky at 7.30pm last night, I recorded the whole game, I have not watched the second half yet. I could not hear any anti Venky chants...

Been told by his mate at the pub after too many pints

A very good managerial appointment as well. They will surprise a few this year.

I wasn't arguing that point. Nobody knows the outcome if we get the penalty. Only thing that is certain - if we had got and scored the penalty it would have been a better second half (it couldn't have been much worse)

Dont think you were there fella! Plenty of anti-Venkys chants!

Just noted that Gerhard Struber is the new manager at Bristol City who have just walloped Sheff Utd 4-1 away. Did them on the break with quick incisive football where everyone was on the same page. Ismael is often revered because of what he did at Barnsley but he was the successor of Struber who had built that team and mentality prior before moving on to New York Red Bulls. Bristol have done well to get him, they could do very well this season.

Think biggest issue with these wholesale changes is we finished 7th last season. Anything less this season and we've gone backwards. Its still a results business, and this aint the Brentford model that has been claimed before. They buy players for the future as does Brighton., they dont just throw them in for sink or swim. We need some championship experience or its gonna be a painful first half of the season until these learn on job.

I don't post the following to be controversial or make a point, but I was busy today and where I would usually check the score every 5 minutes I saw us losing after 20 and checked result after 90. I've stopped caring. If you haven't, then that's great, but I honestly have started to lose interest. I also don't post this as a response to us losing, we could have won 4 zip and I think I would have had the same level of reaction. I'll probably attend 3 or 4 away games again this year but my interest in the club is waning.