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I don't think (hope and pray) anyone is ever gonna get near those two, but Val is in the conversation now for 3rd place in the all time hall of shame.

Umbro via Castore next season apparently.

All things can usually be made…the challenge is the minimum order to make the price point competitive. We couldn’t use that badge though… e.g. our 50’s retro shirts - if we could have sold say 500, the price point would have fallen significantly. We take pre-orders to test the market, but to take pre-orders you still have to take a punt on the unit price. With the 50’s shirts I got it just about perfect (there’s only 1 left…in Medium if anyone is interested 😉) but if I hadn’t, it would have been a loss leader. I have some ideas for future products using the same supplier & I hope to get some samples made up to test the water. The next shirt I’d like to do is the “Bob Crompton” - halves on different side, lighter blue, grandad collar…so if that appears in the Roverstore soon, we know they read this thread 😆

100%. Little extra needs saying except I'd add this, if VI was a party to the sale of the players in close season and had input into the purchase of the current dross then he fully deserves to be condemned with Gestede, the board and the owners. If he didn't then I'm not on his case because any manager being asked to compete with this line up is doomed to fail. Even Fergie couldn't pull it off. These players are absolutely nowhere near Championship standard. Chuck in a couple postponement replays, a whole team of 'first on the list' players injured and too many games in too short a time on a shit heavy hamstring tearing pitch, chuck in some 'unfortunate' referring displays and we are where I think we'd expect to be. There can be no argument whatsoever that we have been poisoned by the ownership and it's impossible to know why. They employ the board, fire good people and hire bad, they starve us of funds, they sell our good players, they run down contracts and force people out. If VI was party to any of the above then he deserves all the anger that's come his way. If he was a desperate unemployed manager who was grasping for any straw and thought 'how bad could it be' well now he knows. Cantwell is an excellent player surrounded by average (at best) players, he cannot shine, he has to be frustrated. If I were him I'd be off like a shot. Who the heck is going to sign for a club like this in January? 100% agree with you mate, our only hope is a sale and clear out. How likely is that? 0%. The club is done.

They aren't writing 200 million off their balance sheet i don't think there is much more to it than that now. They've set up a group of people to run it just above the admin line and that's it now. They'll try to wash its face as this level as long as possible but there'll be another major downscale once we've dropped again. Certainly in the second league 1 season if we didn't go straight back up but for now they'll make sure the lights stay on and maybe allow a little bit of investment to stay out the bottom 3. The club is doomed to another 15 years of bullshit and probably non league at some point.

The role model fan we all ought to be. Passionate and committed enough to the team but willing to sacrifice for the future of the club. 👏👏

Can't see Macron being around for much longer thankfully

When the Coalition requested him not to attend matches last season, he stated on the video with Andy Bayes, that as COO he couldn't possibly do his job if he didn't attend matches. Now he is not attending matches! For me, it is actually a hopeful sign. Venky's trust Pasha completely and if he has had enough, it may get them wondering if he is right. Pasha is the only person we can actually put pressure on and he hates it. We need to keep piling it on continually.

@Herbie6590can this be made?

Monday’s games summarised by @DE. 👏

I’m similar in to a few in the grim acceptance that they’re going nowhere. I’ve never felt further from Rovers in my 41 years of life! I don’t identify with or have any affinity with anything on the pitch (barring the academy lads) or the boardroom and exec seats. I can only see that feeling growing given the current circumstances. Not words I thought I’d ever hear myself think let alone say out loud

He smells commission.

There’s a haughtiness about him, yet he’s nearly 28 and he’s sat at a shambolic club sitting 20th in the second division. Maybe he needs to look at himself as to why his career trajectory has gone this way.

Great post, how I feel about it too. This shouldn’t be a personal choice but about the greater good, about saving an institution that is our club.

Police figure attendance could be less than 6000, the day before the nation, goes back to work and it will be bloody freezing!

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This comment hits home hard this Cold morning...feels like the Club we all love is a lost cause. Will be interesting to see the attendance on Sunday!!

My take on it too - the owners are not going to sell up, ever, because they don't need to. Rovers are a minor irrelevance, and the club's long term fate on and off the pitch is of little concern. The club ticks over on minimum investment and their man in the club manages the day-to-day stuff that is of no interest to them. We've been placed in the metaphorical bottom drawer, maybe to be looked at again at some point in the distant future I cannot see what might shift their stance, other than an embarrassing loss of face from an event that drew international attention.

The sample that @rog of the rovers made for us was far superior & more authentic

I get the feeling they would be even more embarrassed if they sold to someone who was actually successful (even a finish in the play off spots would surpass anything they have ever managed, so is not too difficult a task for someone vaguely competent, with a bit of cash and an actual knowledge/interest in football), than if they were to keep us in this zombie state for the rest of eternity. And as such, refuse to even consider ever releasing us from their clutches

Channelling Gandhi is a new spin on it.

Grim.

They are not going. Pune might be a city of 5 million but in reality it is a village of a few billionaire families who watch each other like hawks with petty jealousy. That is the millieu that matters to our owners. Any embarrassment at relegation or forking out £20m per year is long gone. Instead in Pune and indeed in India they are the only family living there who have outright control of an English football club and in a town where Empire was most visible in causing distress in India. (Why else did Gandhi come to Darwen?). Not being in the Premier League doesn't matter and in fact I am convinced the Premier League was the only sports body ever to call them to account no matter how half heartedly. There would have been hell to pay if Kean hadn't achieved the objective of getting us relegated when he did. The loss of face in divestment of Rovers would be far far more painful for them than the current pergatory.

It is the repeated misjudgements and cock ups which are so draining. I get that he is here for damage limitation for the Raos but he is a one man demolition derby of balls ups. Not fit for purpose for them, for the business, for the football, for the town, for the fans, for anyone.

Trondstat's body language during the last 15 minutes told you the full story. I agree with Parsons that the squad has enough to avoid relegation but yesterday showed that I doubt that this squad has the mental capacity to survive.