Think we'll start 2 hours before games in future and get absolutely plastered to make us look a bit better 🤣

There have been incidences of other managers being incentivised by also being given a cut of the subsequent transfer fees earned by the young players. Just saying

Be interested to see ohashi and gueye swap places

We are a small distant outpost in a vast business empire. A toy at the back of the cupboard that has long been forgotten about. We are the monthly subscription that occasionally see and think "Am I still paying for that? I should really get around to sorting it out." and never do. We are being run not for the benefit and ambitions of the club, but the bottom line of a poultry conglomerate. Nothing changes while they remain here.

Agree. However, toxic fans at Ewood? If only.........!!!!!!!

Our faithful fans keep blaming individuals for poor performances in a team sport once the PR changes. Imagine working in a high growth challenging role and every 12 months all your colleagues get replaced with work experience kids

Wishful thinking, he is actually a championship quality player so would demand a wage at least what Trav was on, so no savings for Pasha, so ignore and move on to someone cheaper.

Won more than us in the last 20 years to be fair.

No they didn’t. It was a big bone of contention between Eustace and Suhail/Owen/Gestede - they felt he didn’t play enough youngsters and were sold on Ismael’s willingness to do so. They are financially incentivising him to make sure it happens.

I don't think he cared about the cup to be honest, it was more a run out for some of the players on the fringes. I don't rate him as a manager but I genuinely think anyone would be struggling with the squad standard and likely morale around the place at the moment. Birmingham on Saturday is the first proper test of the season. If we go a goal or two down early in true Ismael style then it could get toxic pretty quickly this season at Ewood.

Where are the goals?

Early days, of course, but at the end of the day to keep the show on the road at this level with constant budget cuts you need a manager that does the basics well and has a good relationship with the players - I.e Eustace. It doesn’t look like this fella can/will do that so it’s looking like this may well be the year the music stops… ah well, we can be sustainable at a lower level instead, like the women.

We've had the misfortune of being the only club in England owned by owners with bulletproof finances. They've completely torn the heart and soul out of the club, but they have enough money to keep paying our (dwindling) bills so nothing is done. It's a zombie club. A shell of the club we all started supporting. We're in football purgatory.

If we improve 100% then maybe 1-1,if not then dominated and a 0-2 defeat infront of 7,000 piss taking 'won fook all' Brummies. The thought of Kyogo bearing down on our defense frightens me to death. 20,450. 😟

The only way the owners will even know if we get relegated is when the money men have to find another £5-10 million to offset the drop in Sky revenues. They'll make up a chunk of that through further cost cuts and wages off the books but not all of it. Only two ways this ends though - either the Indian authorities / Court force them to get rid of us or the hassle/cost of the legal action and bond eventually tips them once they can't plug the gap with player sales. I'm not confident of either but we are quickly reaching the stage of finding out.

They haven't played in front of silent or toxic fans.

I think he's still getting used to this. Remember Lambert was quite blasé about losing Jordan Rhodes seemingly because he was led to believe that in return he would get all of the £10 million+ to spend in the following window. I think Ismael is probably still operating under such a pretence - offload the 'big' earners and bring in a few million from the 'troublesome want away' players and then we will be able to get out there and spend before the window closes. We know how this one goes, always room for an admin error or two on deadline day if all else fails. By the time he realises he's been had it will be too late. I heard that Eustace had offered to resign last summer when it became clear to him what they were up to, that he wasn't getting any of the Szmodics money to spend and that they were going down the Gestede route and signing unheard of randomers on low money. It was only after they backed down and allowed him to sign Weimann, Batth and McFadzean that he agreed to stay on, however the damage had already been done by then and it appears he had one eye on the exit door after that point. I'm expecting a similar process to unfold here this season. What we don't want however is the deluded mob thinking that all our problems are just the result of a poor manager,

Still reeling from last night,there were no excuses for that poor level of performance.We will have to improve 100% for Saturday or face a mauling infront of a packed Darwen End. Can only reiterate that I believe there is a lot of discontent behind the scenes,quite a few of these Players would be more than happy to jump ship at the first opportunity,is VI capable of man managing this situation?...Heads must be really down after last night. Pissed off already with how matters are going.Dont need this worry tbh.

The chicken chokers probably think we can whistle up a Wharton every season. We all know that players like him come along every 20-25 years, if you’re lucky. We only kept hold of Wharton as long as we did because he was also a fan.

If true, absolutely atrocious. You can't just shoehorn kids in for what essentially boils down to personal gain. A key performance indicator is defined as "a quantifiable measure used to evaluate the success of an organisation, employee, etc. in meeting objectives for performance." Academy's don't necessarily produce first-team ready players every season, there are duff years. During the first 3 or 4 Championship seasons who actually played from our academy? Lowe, Henley, Kean. Hanley did but he was already established, an earlier batch really. It wasn't until Lenihan, Nyambe, Raya, Mahoney came through in 16/17 that we started seeing real Championship quality come through, and even then, a lot of them weren't ready for the cut and thrust of the Championship straight away. Players should only play first team football if they are good enough, not because of some fanciful KPI. There's a reason Eustace went for experience and didn't opt for many academy lads last season. Quite simply, because we didn't have any that are ready. Not to mention that any that are considered decent appear to get hoovered up by PL clubs. Finneran, Phillips etc.

I also think that with the pausity of what we can field up front, he might also be better suited going down the middle with more space and pace more of a threat.

I’ll get my tin hat…but, here’s my view..I don’t blame Travis, Dolan, Brittain or Eustace. They saw, everyday , firsthand, the rudderless ship that we have become. They saw / felt the lack of ambition and lack of leadership , the cost cutting in every aspect of employment at Ewood. They played at home in front of either silent or toxic fans and felt the anger of long suffering supporters because we couldn’t get at the root cause. They weren’t well paid and they deserve better… meanwhile, we carry on rearranging the deck chairs before we, ultimately, go down. Who’s next out ? No longer a season ticket holder but this club has been my life for too many years to remember…sad and angry.

Whatever financial shenanigans they are up to, I don't think it would make sense with less revenue/turnover to tinker with. And cutting the budget into oblivion as we drop down divisions would destroy however they are exploiting the asset. Unless they finally wanted to asset strip properly and destroy us completely, rather than just run us on a shoestring and keep revenue ticking over.

and not having to spend in the meantime! Win win.

Maybe Glen can drop them a message lol