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He always looks like a rabbit in the headlights.

Don't see much merit in sacking Ismael. He's a yes man but at least he's a proper manager, who knows what the alternative would be. I know we've struggled with seeing games out but I don't think there's many games I disagree with his subs, it's just the subs are shite. It's like asking a general to fight a war with dads army on the front lines. You can't pad a military out with bits and bobs.

Put TGH in his place and lose every match.

This time he's throwing certain players under the bus. He's right that they were at fault but who keeps selecting DeNeve and Ribeiro?

You can sack him yes. It’s very difficult to back him TBH. It won’t make any difference though. The fundamentals at the club give his replacement virtually no chance of success. He wouldn’t get backed properly, he wouldn’t be allowed to have much, if any say on sales or incomings. The people above are a bunch of chancers only in it for themselves. Rovers aren’t just one fix away from succeeding in any way. In all my time supporting the club, in seasons where we struggle there was always some hope. Maybe key players were out, maybe there were easier fixtures ahead. Or maybe a decent signing in the next window would have an effect. I don’t feel this way ATM. People saying today we’re in trouble. We’ve been in trouble since this crew turned up.

None of the available centre backs are good enough to play in a back four. And it negates the team's main attacking threat Alebeouso.

Didn’t even listen or know the score till half an hour ago I’m that disenfranchised at the moment. If we can’t beat the teams around us at the bottom we will go down. Whole setup is league one from board room to boot room.

Looks like it has become a bit of an urban myth.

The tone has shifted, I think. There's far less rage in response to this loss than I'm used to on this board. Confusion about starting De Neve, sure. But mostly resignation and apathy. The way the club's decline has accelerated over the past 12 months is truly frightening - there's currently not a single thing I can say I'm proud of about supporting Rovers.

De Neve De Neve Oh with your eyes so black De Neve De Neve You'll get Ismael the sack De Neve De Neve You'll have us in league 2 oh oh

Gestede. Fuck off you useless cunt. Take the shadow man and the chicken nuggets with you as well.

It's beyond belief that DeNeve starts ahead of Pickering who has his limitations but can at least defend properly. The fact that he's been available all season but is continually ignored even as a substitute suggests there are some shenanigans in the background. DeNeve was utterly pants today and contributed absolutely nothing.

Amen - the anger should be in one direction only. Besides I also think a good proportion of this squad is likeable. Ohashi, Tronstad, Alebiosu, Hedges, Wharton and more. They keep their head down and work hard, and seem professional. Agree to some extent if we continue with more windows like the last it’ll be a revolving door and become hard to take to players.

£1m.

There'll be an aptly timed report in a paper tomorrow of mooted interest in players for the Jan window.

He’s just another in a long line of lambs to the slaughter VI, I’m sure he’s doing the best he can. I’ve been saying for many years now, we could bring Guardiola in and the owners and the acolytes would find a way to bollox it up. VENKYS OUT - NOTHING ELSE MATTERS Safe trip home everyone.

They have a decent manager who appears to be able to make decisions by himself. We've got a poor manager who is dictacted to by a chicken factory manager and the work experience lad.

Paul Lim. 71 years old and wins at the World,Championships once again. His averages are probably as good now as they were 35 years ago. What a legend.

Can the thread title be changed so it's at least grammatically correct? @Herbie6590

And yet people still go to the games ?

With apologies to All Saints. "Dion De Neve have I ever felt so low When you gonna take me out of this black hole? Dion De Neve have I ever felt so sad The way I'm feeling, yeah, you got me feeling really bad"

I cannot think of anyone decent to replace VI as manager. At one time I would have been happy to give Damian Johnson a go but he sits there looking pretty useless to me; no ambition.

Filling the club with his dross after helping force out others, sneering at fans who could see the car crash coming a mile off, getting paid handsomely in a position NO other championship club would give him. Balls to him he deserves holding partly accountable at least.

Something for you to do on Monday then 😉 Have a few more, make sure to include Gestede & Pasha, lol

If I was at work now I'd be getting Photoshop out and a picture of De Neve and Tavares.