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How many people were actually in the home sections at Swansea last night ? It resembled Ewood can't have been more than 9 or 10k actually in there but it didn't bother the team they still showed up and did their jobs. All this talk of lack or crowds affecting players is bollocks they melt every time there's a good crowd anyway.

No club announcement yet. Strange.

The lack of ideas and quality is a painful watch. Even at 1-1 at ht if felt like watching a non league side. I can probably count on 1 hand the amount of succeeded passes. My opinion on it: Toth - got to be claiming the first goal, its being headed cleared at 2 yards out. Also you can see hes struggling with his knee now and again (Still better than pears with one leg). Archeson - can put his body on the line but with the ball at his feet nowhere near comfortable enough. Young needs a loan. Oriordan - hes better than Mclloughlin and needs to start every game. McLoughlin - so poor, not the best at playing out, loses it 50% of the time. Hinckman - 1/10, hes is never in a million years a right wing back and ive no idea how he lasted 90 mins there. Not sure he made a succesful pass, just clipped it to nobody or passed the ball back to swansea, dreadful decision making through out. Powell - too lightweight and not ready. Good set up for the goal, but wind could blow him over. Too early for him for me. Tronstad - easily MOM. Needs help. Baraji - Tried, but in this formation i feel for him and tronstad because it kids football stuff everyone just chasing all over the place with massive gaps. Doherty - Shows nice touches on it, but a little non existent, again to early for him probably, maybe better having minutes here and there. I think their 3rd goal which came form a corner was a result of him giving it away twice in succession on swansea 18 yard box. New Signing up front - off that 1 showing not up to speed. Good poachers goal, but all round play looked off the pace. Games hopefully improve him. Looks like he needs minutes. Yuki - 1/10. Apart from running he offers absolutely nothing. Cant hold it up, hes weak, hes slow, and makes too many wrong decisions. I will say he probably needs a rest due to the amount hes played. De neve - should never play left wing back, or anywhere for that matter. Needs releasing, hes only ever looked ok once playing left wing being direct and crossing, but for this level, nowhere near it. Manager - should get the sack. Has no tactical ability. He cant seem to have a plan B. And Plan A almost seems like watching kids football. We can all sit and say injuries are a problem which they are, but for me when I watch us we seem to just be sprinting all over the pitch, theres never a hold of defensive shape, or traps set, its just a you need to sprint to that player as soon as possible, its literally just like watching kids football with no shape or plan to what their doing. Its just kick and charge football. You cant expect players to do this every week and not rotate, which he never was doing in the first place. Injuries for me are on his poor lack of playing style running like headless chickens and lack of rotation. The whole situation for me is totally on him.

As said i can't see anything wrong with it. What's he meant to do?

I woke up about 4-30 this morning with Rovers on my mind. Where do we go from here ? If we get relegated again it won’t be like the last time. We won’t come flying back. I fear by the time that the better players are available again it will be too late. I’ve seen us get relegated before when we appeared to be hopeless but at least the board then had the nous to appoint a succession of really good managers to get us out of the mire. Oh for a Ken Furphy, Gordon Lee, Jim Smith, Howard Kendall today. All really imaginative appointments. Even a Bob Saxton or a Don Mackay. The current board is a board in name only. They are clueless.

If they had anything about them at the club, Gestede would be asked to desperately move on De Neve, Henriksson and Tavares now. Then bring in 3 replacements that can play at this level, along with a LWB. The other option is you tell all 3 they won't be registered and bring in the players who can play anyway. Either way it's been made clear that signing players should not be Gestede's responsibility.

I have made the mistake of listening to this guys interview on Radio Lancs from last night, I cannot comprehend how he can sit there and talk about how everything is set to be fine when the injured players return (no time frame on the majority of them). There was no mention whatsoever of incomings, none! When asked about the system, injuries are the reason for the system and it isn't going to change. In a club were there is no accountability, our injury list is extremely handy for many people in power.

At least two more, then we will beat Sheff Wed and will crow on about it for weeks. Followed by another long period without a win.

I’m ok with it. He wasn’t in the squad and had played for the 21s the day before. He’s made the short trip to watch a friend play.

Ian, you have openly admitted that you are missing more and more matches and need a side event to make it worth your while. Begs the question as to what the attraction was of a Tuesday night winter fixture in deepest Wales 😂 I used to work in Swansea and so was considering it but after the Ipswich performance and then recalling the woeful performance that we put in there last season in Lowe’s last match, common sense prevailed !

I'm almost intrigued to see how many more games we can go without winning before they sack him. 1 win in 13 now, a couple of tough games coming up, we are already beyond the point of what most normal clubs would tolerate, irrespective of league position and excuses. He'd have been sacked last night if it was me running the club and I'd be on the phone now to Savage at Forest Green, maybe Rowett or Challinor at Stockport/Clough at Mansfield and trying to tempt one of these guys to come into the mad house.

Sums the situation up perfectly. The Club is a complete shambles from the Owners to the Board to the Manager. I can only see one outcome to this - relegation. Very sad days but the proud Indians clearly don't see it the same way or would change things. Rovers will always be my Club but in this special year the writing is on the wall!

Would that concussion have been caused by the elbow he got at the weekend ?

If you're not going to sack him, he needs reinforcements and rapid. Clear the spots on the registration De Neve - sold, released, deregistered - no future in English football Yuri Ribeiro and/or Pickering - sold, released - pointless him being here with the 3-5-2 Taylor Gardner-Hickman - loan termination - just a dreadful player Ryan Hedges - Injury too severe Henriksson - loan out Sign Left back/wing back - Cashin could fill in there I'm sure Centre forward - no.9 Centre midfielder - Experience at Championship/Premier League level, even if its an older body like Forshaw 2.0 Centre Back/Right back cover - Someone who can play in front of Alebiosu or cover for him. 4-4-1-1 or 4-3-3 pack the midfield again, too easy to play against the two in there. Be difficult to break down, start with clean sheets.

I'm sure there is always input but at the end of the day it has to be Ismael's choice. He's the manager who's job is on the line. I think what the past few months have shown us is that he trusts what he trusts and isn't flexible enough. You'd think at 3-1 down, you'd have changed it with 30 mins to go because then you can see if something else works or clicks better. He brought on like for like replacements and continued to play the same.

I was only thinking about this the other day. This team reminds me of the team that first saw us relegated to the old Third Division back in the early 1970’s. Especially in the use of young players that aren’t ready for being thrown in at the deep end.

Not a good look this

Same. They got a headline story in the LT didn't they? Good publicity. People attacking them as "amateurs" are making personal attacks to avoid addressing the issue. Well done to the lads I say. If there were hundreds of "amateur "posters all over Blackburn the club would be shitting themselves. Its not too late!

Easily our best central midfield signing in the summer, that tells you everything.

The chances are, we are being spun yarn, which is a regular thing. It was reported as a mystery injury yesterday.

He was, posted it on his instagram.

That being said, we didn't sign Premier League Adam Forshaw, we signed an injury prone player who is past his best & was struggling to get into a Plymouth side who were ultimately relegated. But as Down South said, he is probably better than several of our other current options (TGH, Henriksson & Tavares at minimum)

The Hull one is proof that even with significant restrictions imposed it is still possible to recruit well and compete in this league. The difference of course is that the restrictions imposed on Hull were caused by their owners' ambition and spending and he is doing his best to overcome/get around those and still compete. Our owners have used FFP rules and restrictions as a perfect excuse to cover for their own cutbacks and have never had a shred of ambition. If they, or anyone else, had ambition here much much more could be done.

In VI post match interview he mentions Toddy (made of tissue paper) having concussion and will be back in 7 days. Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought concussion protocols were 14 days before returning and it starts at midnight of the day of the injury. So the warrior can’t play against Watford

Forshaw has nearly 100 Premier League games under his belt. Not one of that lot you mentioned, or anyone we have bought in get anywhere close to that in there careers.