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I don't disagree but it's the other end of the pitch that really worries me. We are missing McLoughlin and with Carter and Wharton not having played a full game for ages I really think we are up against it. Miller could play at centre half but after a punishing week he could be jaded. Pickering has also played there but similar to Carter and Wharton he has hardly played in a long time. Selling Hyam so late in the window will come back to bite us immediately.

Something different…or something cheaper? 🤔

Interesting that he took a back seat for this one. He simply has to go. The one constant.

‘Can you fulfil your 38/46 games?’ ‘You can? Great, crack on then’. That’s the only regulating the governing bodies fixture organisers of English football do.

The Style Council - Have You Ever Had It Blue?

Oi 😁

'there’s a lot of buzz around Ryoya Miroshita' … and now also Andri Guðjohnsen after two goals against France for Iceland (albeit one disallowed). Obviously fit and ready to go.

We are one win away from turning the corner.

He has been one of the better players on show but he’s not on Britain’s level so this is where the concern is lost 4/5 games tough few fixtures coming up a fully new squad but we’re being asked to be patient

Yeah I will give you that one the Baradji deal is very odd and no one seems to know when he can play again but it could work out good (if we ever see him) as he was wanted by clubs higher up than us so he might have something about him but its just something else we all play guessing games on right now. Alebiosu has not been dreadful since he came in, more athletic that Brittain, he has work to do but the signs are good at least

Well we can only judge what we have seen to date and what we have seen is regression from last years squad to now. Travis is streets clear of Tavares at present Brittain is a top 5 champ right back hyam is better than what we currently have so we’re pinning our hopes on Morishita and gudjohnsen to be good but they will take time and that’s the issue certainly the one that I have is we shouldn’t be in this position what ideally should have happened is we sign Morishita/gudjohnsen/miller on top of last seasons squad probably minus Dolan weimann and batth as all were likely to go add Baradji to the mix - Vals words in the interview about transfers saying miller was due in 3 weeks before he signed but got injured so they didn’t want to chance it. Why sign a player in Baradji who failed a medical and is currently injured? Doesn’t make sense

The small minority that are spreading division, are the ones that are in charge of the club.

Totally understand what you are saying losing a number of first teamers is not great at all but will they be missed that much. I get they knew each other in terms of playing together and out new crop will take a while to gel so that's a worry but, Batth and Weimann are currently being slated by Derby fans for being tosh, Dolan far to inconsistent and frustrating and was slagged off all season by fans so no wonder he jogged on. Travis was a run around but football wise was very limited, people more bothered about the emotional connection to Travis than his ability. Hyam is a loss but only because of the timing, think given time he could have been replaced. Start of the season has been poor and i think the new signings especially ones we signed at the end of the window need to be in the first 11 quickly and then we can judge. Until then we just don't know if all this is extremely worrying or a stroke of genius

Can only think that he represents the "stakeholders".

The video is as everyone expected. A heavily sanitised pile of shit. Hand picked questions, the 3 of them sat comfortably knowing they wouldnt be pulled up on anyone. I dont think any of them come across well, I would love to know what Ismael really thinks about the window. Gestede in particular is not a likeable figurehead and again reverted back to the crap about a minority spreading division. Some take away points to mention are again the painting of players as just wanted to move without any probing. Why are no players willing to sign here? Is our wage budget really that restrictive? Where the offers put to them in writing as it feels like we happily got rid of players earning competitive Championship wages? The contract record or lack of over an extended period of time cant just be ignored. Ismael also said that this was a summer of transition that wont happen again. Why not? Loads of other players are out of contract in 1 or 2 seasons, what will change? Will players finally start signing up here? It also seems that we wont be signing another defender. Love how they are pushing that Miller is one of 4 centre backs now based partly on a cup game, and it seems like TGH is going to cover right back. Which only leaves Tavares who has been very questionable to partner Tronstad. They also mentioned how much pace we have now. In attack, have we? None of the attackers we signed seem quick. They also kept pushing Montgomery, I havent seen this development that they have seen. Also, whats going on with Pears? When is Baradji back fit?

I stated that at the start of the window that last year was the same in terms of predictions towards relegation etc and we proved that all wrong. However there’s 2 massive differences this time around 1. last season we didn’t lose the core of the team - losing 1/2 is fine 5/6 is not fine 2. we seen the start we made last season compared to this one it’s def different. Do the players deserve patience and time yes of course they aren’t to blame but we shouldn’t be in this position

they learn the hard way, or just stop looking backwards.

As long as the next generation had a hand on the levers of power within the Venky Empire. Pasha runs the subsidiary.....who will turn it from a Subsidiary to a Community Enterprise?

If only they had some history to look back on to prevent it just being hindsight.

They have...it's digital 😆

You’re right, results do matter and patience will wear thin quickly if points arent picked up, that’s the reality. But I don’t think this rebuild is about preparing for relegation, it’s about trying something different after years of falling just short. The old squad had grown together but also hit a ceiling. The Jan window and Eustace exit were setbacks, but they'll have exposed deeper issues the club have since addressed. The new approach is risky, no doubt but risk doesn’t always mean decline. If even a few of these signings settle quickly and the team gels, we will be competitive. It’s not about accepting worse results it’s accepting change takes time. Let’s see where we are after 10–15 games before writing the season off.

There won't be any time or patience if results don't improve because at less than a point a game relegation is quite likely. It isn't the fans that are 'hell bent' on preparing for relegation it is the Club due to voluntarily pursuing a policy of rapidly dismantling a proven competitive squad and replacing it with a totally inexperienced questionable quality squad at low cost. Unless you are very, very good the likelihood is that this policy will result in a deterioration in results, something you seem to accept with all the talk about 'patience' which basically means we should accept a decline in performances, results, league position as a result of choices the management have made this summer. Why should we accept that rather than expect an improvement on last year? I'm not interested in a team that can 'grow together' - as pointed out a combination of a wage cap not competitive at this level, an obsession with cutting costs, a high risk recruitment strategy and general unwillingness to compete financially in this division this means there will be no growth or project because the minute a player proves himself of quality in this league we will be vulnerable to him being poached by a rival e.g. the mighty Derby. We had a squad that had 'grown together' with people like Travis, Brittain and Dolan who had been at the club for years, often since academy days. It is as much short term now as it was last summer only with a lower cost base.

Don't Watford know they can save a tenner over four years if they get rid of it?

if you scroll back 12 months to the transfer window forum from 2024 the messages on here where exactly the same, rubbish window, relegation is bound to happen, board out etc and then we finished 7th. Exactly the same tone this year. If some of the new signings can hit the ground running I think we can have a pretty decent season, barring a few top teams in the league its not a brilliant Championship in term of quality (like last year) New Japanese lad looks pretty decent and certainly an upgrade on Dolan. If Gudjohnsen can score which it look like he can at international level anyway then there are positive signs of life.