Glad he has a deal in place. Feel like he never really got the chance here, do think he offered something going forward and could have been useful.

If you read what I actually posted ‘when he took over’, it wasn’t ‘after he’d had his first game’ Try reading first before you try and be a clever dick.

Im talking about from the quarters onwards. Before that, winning your group is a big factor that is in your control. A quarter final against Sweden and a semi final against Croatia. A quarter final of Ukraine, a semi final against Denmark and a final against Italy. A quarter final against Switzerland and a semi final against Holland. The exception was a quarter final against France. Overall, they are runs to the final through no control of our own that we would have absolutely taken before the draw was made. One thing I keep saying is you can be fortunate with the uncontrollables ie the fixtures but also still consider it an achievement. I said that Southgate did well and has a good tournament record, consistently beating decent/good but not great teams in knockout football is still impressive. But as soon as you mention the word luck, it seems to touch a nerve and people see it as an attempt to totally discredit anything that Southgate has done. The whole point stems from comparing different managers. Sven underachieved, Southgate didnt, but you arent comparing like for like when we had quarter finals against Brazil and Portugal x 2 under him.

when he took over for his first game which was 1-1 Championship - Overview: Matchday 20 24/25 | Transfermarkt

Anybody on here who believes we bid for that player needs their heads looked at

Merely surprised that a manager who got 92 points in 46 games has been sacked but disgusted and wishing relegation upon a team that sacked a manager who oversaw the worst second half of a season in the whole division.

It is the same with every international manager because they all play by the same rules (we will ignore seeding and group rankings as it doesn’t suit the narrative). So by this token unless that nation has beat sides that roversfan99 consider elite their manager has been lucky Took a while to get there I suppose

So we went for a player who isnt interested in a move to the Championship and bid 40% of his asking price? Yep, sounds about right.

a) determined by results that we didnt control! You take the Millwall comparison that was pointed out. It was results that led to them playing lower league opposition all the way to the FA cup final. Whether the draw was pre determined is irrelevant. b) you asked me earlier if it applies both ways and I literally said that Germany in the last 16 after winning our group and also France as early as the quarters were both examples of bad luck.

They were 22nd when he took over… they finished 21st. Survival was obviously the name of the game and they did it, but not exactly some miracle worker.

Ah, you don't want to join? Of course we would've met your multi million pound price tag don't you know!

Next season, for certain.

I think Rob Edwards to Boro isn't a strange appointment. Gerhard Struber going to Bristol City, is a move I don't get. Deffo think they could have done much better Sellas to Sheffield United is a surprise move but The Sheffield United owners want to move to data lead recruitment approac. I surprised they are sacking Wilder to be honest Sellas took over at Hull with them rock bottom of the championship and he kept them up. Did a good job there shame Hull owner didn't stick by him.

no idea but just posting what he said Its standard stuff that you will have different lists for different positions you want to bring in, Every club is the same when buying players.

Giving me Mokoena vibes

Looks a mean s.o b !

Is this kit the same fit as last years then? Was two sizes up before being comfortable last year

He doesn't want to join and we dont want to pay. It was never going to happen.

Markandy signed for Chesterfield. 3 year deal

Wolves bid over 4m for Kapuadi last week, absolutely no way on planet earth that one's got legs in it 🤣

Your problem is a, even entertaining the concept of luck, when every subsequent fixture is determined by results. B, having used the concept of luck (which in this case is ridiculous), you're only applying it to having good luck, never once have you entertained he might have had bad luck. The whole thing is ridiculous. I just hope Tuchel employs a Witch Doctor to help with the training.

And he already has a boot contract with Nike apparently 🤷‍♂️

We do love joining a race. We dont win them when they are a race.

Either way though, it was totally out of England's control. So if England get weaker opposition as a result of games in which they had no bearing on, then it is fortunate. Your problem is your seeing them as mutually exclusive. His tournament record can be good AND he could have had lots of luck in terms of fixtures, simultaneously. I have said his record was good and he still deserves credit for getting as far as he did and beating who he did beat even if most of the time he was favourite (at times considerably) to do so.