Parkes Sacked By Hughes !

[Ewood Dream]

I'd only be saying similar things to others who posted in this topic but Mark Hughes is the manager of BRFC now and the board have to give him his full backing and if Hughes feels that Tony has no real proper role in the new regime building, then so be it. I know Tony has been a terrifice and loyal servant to the club but nothing lasts forever and we can only thank him for his service and not curse the club for making a decision based on fact.

Edited November 13, 2004 by Ewood Dream

[skip24]

apparently parkes was losing interest as coach so rovers could do with a new person in reserves to breed more of the young academy lads through and get them prepared for the first team.

[waggy]

hughes is the 1st manager appionted since jw passed away,happen he did not get the whisper in the ear that tp remains at ewood full stop.

i cannot knock hughesy for making this decesion,it should have been done years ago,but the way tp found out is unforgiveable,and to have the remaining chuckle brother come on the radio and say

'i will not be calling the fbi in' is a insult to every rovers fan let alone tp.

the way the interview came over,it sounded like very few people new about the sacking,so the mole could easily be found.

it looks like someone is supplementing this grossly over inflated wage packet by taking back handers off the media,and its ok to do it

ps the guy on the radio who wished rovers to get relagated was not a rovers fan,just a footie fan

Edited November 13, 2004 by waggy

[blue phil]

To breed more of them , Skip24....? Maybe Flitcroft could be given a role here....

Edited November 13, 2004 by blue phil

[mjs]

He was undeniably a great servant to Rovers and his departure was handled badly.

That being said it was time for TP (who has made an excellent living out of BRFC) to move on, so FFS Rovers fans stop the amatuer dramatics, get over it and move on.

Edited November 13, 2004 by mjs

[colin]

Time to get the autobiography together Tony.

Pick a good ghost writer mind.

Thanks for everything

[Blue blood]

Regardless of whether Parkes had a role to play or not, the club have handled things very badly. For a man who gave his all to the club the way he's been treated has been shambolic. Being cynical sure;y it wouldn't have been long before Parkes retired anyway, and the board cannot afford to alienate the fans any more than they already have.

Personally I'm saddened that another link of what it means to be Rovers has gone. What makes it even more baffling to me is that the reserves have been playing well under Parkes and some youth players are really looking as if they might be ready for a crack at the big time. I'm talking about the likes of Bruce, Johnson, Peers. If that's not doing a good job as reserve team manager I don't know what is...

[broadsword]

Although I agree that there should be no sacred cows at Ewood, and we cannot afford to give Tony a token coaching role, the whole sacking saga seems to me reminiscent of the unhappy ship we had when Rovers were last relegated. OK, so team spirit is better, but this is the sort of clanger that would've been dropped in teh Kidd era.

The impression I had from John Williams' comments was that it was a provisional agreement to terminate Tony's contract that was made on the Tuesday and that it was rubber-stamped the day before Tony was due to be told.

If that is true then they needed to have acted earlier and there MUST be a way of finding out who leaked this information. It's just not good enough to brush it under the carpet and move on.

Hughes has done a good job in polishing a turd, but teh team still has problems, big ones, we're in danger of being left adrift in the bottom 3 (look at the table if you dont believe me!), and can't bring any players in for another 6 weeks.

Perhaps this could've been left until the end of the season, especially as I can't imagine the benefits being reaped immediately. How many kids would you want to draft in to a relegation battle?

All a little bit sad.

[BRFC4EVA]

Thanks for everything Parkes, a blue and white thru and thru

[Derbyshire Blue]

The blokes probably been on mega bucks (compared to the pittance I’ve received) since jack walker moved into the club, except for his caretaker rolls..since Dalglish was around he’s been nothing more than a general gofer/tea boy. I used to watch Rovers train down Plezzy, when Harford took the training all he did was carry the nets on’t field, great money since, probably good pay off now at 55, great early retirement….i bloody dream of such an outcome to life….lucky bugger

[USABlue]

Take out the human element and think of the club, this is for the best.

Come on you Blues.

What made this club different was that there was once a human element - and TP epitomised it . I see very little of the human element present in JW . A board meeting on Tuesday that decided Parkes' fate and he still hadn't mentioned it by Friday ? What kind of self respecting Chief Executive (or manager come to that )wouldn't think about the possibility of there being a leak in that time ?

Williams has apparently promised to speak to Radio Lancs after today's game . Let's hope he doesn't forget .

How ferkin naive some of you people are. It happens. I have managed businesses and sad but true the business is first. It is common practice in a company to make decisions to get rid of people some time before they are told. I personally have known people that were going to be terminated up to two weeks before it happenend. It's the way it is we are not talking about a mum and dad business here.

Wake up, the human element left football years ago, having one long term employee does not alter that.

Good to see Rev back, must have been foaming at the mouth for a chance to have a go on this one.

Wake up poeple it happens every day, not just to priveleged football "staff" but to hard working folks struggling to make end meet, does anyone here this Parkes will go hungry? Hey, maybe Parkes himself was tipped off he was going to be canned and called the press himself, anyone think of that?

Let it go, Parkes has been nothing short of priveleged for a long time, let the new era begin. I'm done on this one.

PS the post above this one is about the most real one I have seen yet. It's not like the bloke was up at 5am everyday then pulled 8-10 hours at the mill is it.

Edited November 14, 2004 by USABlue

[USABlue]

I have it on very good authority at least one manager attempted to remove Tony some years ago. Perhaps others did too? Who knows?

The most interesting question is what has changed to mean the board where prepared to let him go? I can only imagine Hughes has put forward a very strong case for change

What changed is, in my opinion, the board were finally made aware of the division Tony's presence could have on the camp, as a player Hughes would have seen it first hand.

A point, had Tony Parkes been fired before Souness arrived would Souness" personal battles gone on with the likes of Dunn and Cole, sneaky feeling I have is that Mr "Blackburn Rovers" was somewhere in the background egging them on. Just a gut feeling. He should have been moved on long ago.

Edited November 14, 2004 by USABlue

[USABlue]

Pick a good ghost writer mind.

jim'll be up for that one.

[FourLaneBlue]

It's been pretty obvious for over a year now that something at Rovers was just not right and Souness leaving alone is nowhere near enough for everything in the garden to be rosy. It's a good decision for Hughes to have a fresh management team on the football side of things.

There's been something stagnant about the club ever since we finished sixth and from being a team on the up and going places there's been a whiff of decline...maybe inevitable as what goes up does come down but no easier to stomach because of that. A new start was called for...maybe Parkes included. Who ultimately knows what's going to be for the best?None of us really, we have to trust those who know more than us.

Besides, Parkes has been paid very handsomely by the club for decades. The guy had a good run. Although he'll be missed life goes on and I, like all on here I'm sure, wish him all the best in the future. Met the guy once when he gave out medals at my school and he was a very nice, well-mannered and quietly spoken gentleman. The silly sod was half an hour late mind... All the best Tony and you have a place of honour in the history of Blackburn Rovers Football Club. That can never, and will never, be taken away from you.

Regarding the story in the press...yes it's pretty poor that it was leaked but it's hardly the first time is it? The Cole story in the summer was learnt by fans from the Mirror rather than the club. Although I think that they come in for some unwarranted stick, the club must be careful not to alienate their fans too much. I've thought for a long time how much better their PR should be, especially as John Williams is such an eloquent and believable speaker. Hopefully in the future he can do more interviews as that is the 'human touch' the fans need from the club. From the man in charge who we all trust with the best interests of the club.

Bye Tony thanks for everything, you will be fondly remembered that is a certainty. Now come on Sparky let's get up the league!

[Al]

I have it on very good authority at least one manager attempted to remove Tony some years ago. Perhaps others did too? Who knows?

The most interesting question is what has changed to mean the board where prepared to let him go? I can only imagine Hughes has put forward a very strong case for change

What changed is, in my opinion, the board were finally made aware of the division Tony's presence could have on the camp, as a player Hughes would have seen it first hand.

A point, had Tony Parkes been fired before Souness arrived would Souness" personal battles gone on with the likes of Dunn and Cole, sneaky feeling I have is that Mr "Blackburn Rovers" was somewhere in the background egging them on. Just a gut feeling. He should have been moved on long ago.

What a load of rubbish you talk USA Blue.

There is and never has been any suggestion that TP has undermined any manager at Rovers. I have no idea where you get your rediculous assumption from.

Incidentally your management philosophy is exactly what gives capitalism its unacceptable face. Employees are people, not some kind of disposable object that can be thrown away when no longer required. Have you ever been sacked? I'm sure it must be devastating.

I too have been a manager for most of my working life and am proud of the fact that I never sacked anyone.

[MCMC1875]

I have it on very good authority at least one manager attempted to remove Tony some years ago. Perhaps others did too? Who knows?

The most interesting question is what has changed to mean the board where prepared to let him go? I can only imagine Hughes has put forward a very strong case for change

What changed is, in my opinion, the board were finally made aware of the division Tony's presence could have on the camp, as a player Hughes would have seen it first hand.

A point, had Tony Parkes been fired before Souness arrived would Souness" personal battles gone on with the likes of Dunn and Cole, sneaky feeling I have is that Mr "Blackburn Rovers" was somewhere in the background egging them on. Just a gut feeling. He should have been moved on long ago.

What a load of rubbish you talk USA Blue.

There is and never has been any suggestion that TP has undermined any manager at Rovers. I have no idea where you get your rediculous assumption from.

Incidentally your management philosophy is exactly what gives capitalism its unacceptable face. Employees are people, not some kind of disposable object that can be thrown away when no longer required. Have you ever been sacked? I'm sure it must be devastating.

I too have been a manager for most of my working life and am proud of the fact that I never sacked anyone.

Never Having sacked anyone could be construed as a weakness. You sound like one of the 'job for life' brigade which largely died out in the 1970's, well suited to the public sector or unions, (now reincarnated as Health and Safety officials).

[Al]

I have it on very good authority at least one manager attempted to remove Tony some years ago. Perhaps others did too? Who knows?

The most interesting question is what has changed to mean the board where prepared to let him go? I can only imagine Hughes has put forward a very strong case for change

What changed is, in my opinion, the board were finally made aware of the division Tony's presence could have on the camp, as a player Hughes would have seen it first hand.

A point, had Tony Parkes been fired before Souness arrived would Souness" personal battles gone on with the likes of Dunn and Cole, sneaky feeling I have is that Mr "Blackburn Rovers" was somewhere in the background egging them on. Just a gut feeling. He should have been moved on long ago.

What a load of rubbish you talk USA Blue.

There is and never has been any suggestion that TP has undermined any manager at Rovers. I have no idea where you get your rediculous assumption from.

Incidentally your management philosophy is exactly what gives capitalism its unacceptable face. Employees are people, not some kind of disposable object that can be thrown away when no longer required. Have you ever been sacked? I'm sure it must be devastating.

I too have been a manager for most of my working life and am proud of the fact that I never sacked anyone.

Never Having sacked anyone could be construed as a weakness. You sound like one of the 'job for life' brigade which largely died out in the 1970's, well suited to the public sector or unions, (now reincarnated as Health and Safety officials).

I certainly have not had one job for life and know for sure that none of my staff would consider me weak. If you take the trouble to choose the right people and treat them properly (firmly if necessary) they will respond and do a good job for you. There is no need to sack anyone, indeed if I had found it necessary I would have considered it a failure on my part to get the best out of a person.

I apologise for taking this thread off topic and therefore will make this my last word on the subject.

[MCMC1875]

Al

Before you go, you do not say how you would deal with a team of staff which you inherit by promotion or appointment, two very common scenarios these days.

[Al]

Al

Before you go, you do not say how you would deal with a team of staff which you inherit by promotion or appointment, two very common scenarios these days.

Only happened once (by promotion) at a large engineering company in Blackburn. My former colleages were delighted that I had got the job and worked their butts off for me.

Since then I have been involved with a series of startup companies and have chosen my own staff.

[blue phil]

I personally have known people that were going to be terminated up to two weeks before it happenend.

Sounds like you've adapted well to the land of Shwarzenegger and co , USA .....Sad to see the Rovers going the same way

[herbergeehh]

Sad to see Parkes leaving, he is Blackburn Rovers through and through and has done a wonderful job filling in for manager after manager...

Thanks!

[USABlue]

I have it on very good authority at least one manager attempted to remove Tony some years ago. Perhaps others did too? Who knows?

The most interesting question is what has changed to mean the board where prepared to let him go? I can only imagine Hughes has put forward a very strong case for change

What changed is, in my opinion, the board were finally made aware of the division Tony's presence could have on the camp, as a player Hughes would have seen it first hand.

A point, had Tony Parkes been fired before Souness arrived would Souness" personal battles gone on with the likes of Dunn and Cole, sneaky feeling I have is that Mr "Blackburn Rovers" was somewhere in the background egging them on. Just a gut feeling. He should have been moved on long ago.

What a load of rubbish you talk USA Blue.

There is and never has been any suggestion that TP has undermined any manager at Rovers. I have no idea where you get your rediculous assumption from.

Incidentally your management philosophy is exactly what gives capitalism its unacceptable face. Employees are people, not some kind of disposable object that can be thrown away when no longer required. Have you ever been sacked? I'm sure it must be devastating.

I too have been a manager for most of my working life and am proud of the fact that I never sacked anyone.

So do you Al. Not actually sacked Al but made redundant after 91/2 years of service. Firing someone, or laying them off is a difficult thing for management also Al, but you apparently would not know that.

Letting people go that have been your friends and colleagues for years is truly gut wrenching, espescially when you know AHEAD OF TIME. You have to keep working with these people and look them in the eye on Monday knowing that come Friday you will be meeting with them to tell them they no longer have an income. I'd say it is actually as difficult, if not more so, as losing your job. Yes I may come across as cold but I am not, more like battle hardened. Al until you yourself have actually done this you can only comment on what you know, which is by your own admission, only one side of the coin.

As for the Parkes thing, my points were hypothetical, suggestive and unsubstantiated and I am not in the least surprised by your it never could have happened stance. We all like to feel warm and fuzzy don't we, sadly life is crueler than that. Chances are you would not even consider it ever happened, that might spoil some perception. Time may prove may right or wrong eh Al?

Given what you say about capitalism I can only assume you support the opposite, so what do you stand for, communism, socialism, people not working hard, expecting the ones that do to bail them out? really acceptable those options. What is so wrong with taking care of a business, sometimes a few must suffer so the whole can survive, it's not just capitalism Al it's also the way of Mother Nature, think about it. Only the strong survive.

Lastly, I have taken over as manager where the old boss was demoted and still there, I was also informed that he would be going nowhere, an untouchable. Obviously still bitter about his demotion, he caused nothing but unrest and dissention. He retired, things got good.

Edited November 14, 2004 by USABlue

[adopted scouser]

I too have been a manager for most of my working life and am proud of the fact that I never sacked anyone.

I'm confused Al. What if they deserved the sack ?

I had to do just that last week for gross misconduct. It's not an easy thing to do, but it affords respect to the honest and hard working employees who you rely on.

A sacking to be proud of, yes.

Edited November 14, 2004 by adopted scouser

[USABlue]

I personally have known people that were going to be terminated up to two weeks before it happenend.

Sounds like you've adapted well to the land of Shwarzenegger and co , USA .....Sad to see the Rovers going the same way

What? you don't think that happens in Jolly old England, perleeeese wake up.

[USABlue]

Al

Before you go, you do not say how you would deal with a team of staff which you inherit by promotion or appointment, two very common scenarios these days.

Only happened once (by promotion) at a large engineering company in Blackburn. My former colleages were delighted that I had got the job and worked their butts off for me.

Since then I have been involved with a series of startup companies and have chosen my own staff.

I am confused now, if you inherited them how were they former colleagues?

Was there a bitter individual that had been there over thirty years who was demoted to make room for you, as was the case with me, oh and Tony Parkes BTW.