Amo Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Exactly what it says on the tin. Discussion topic for David Dunn. I was going to post about how he's been crap lately and past it at PL level, but it's his birthday today, so I'll let him off. Happy Birthday Dunny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chris Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 I would say he looking pretty fat and need to get in shape because he is earning a hell of a lot of money but as it's his birthfday I will not mention it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RovertheHill Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 I think Dunny needs to get the videos out and watch the last few years of Tugay if he wants to still operate at this level. He may be skillful enough but he is not quick enough now to drive past players like he used to. He cannot run box to box. He should watch what Tugay used to do. Get the ball, move it quickly, keep it simple and wait for the moment to play more incisive passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeru tha Damaja Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 He really needs to change soon or he's finished at the top level. Hope nobody bought him a birthday cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadsword Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Maybe he could be our next manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeru tha Damaja Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Maybe he could be our next manager? Kean's helping him through his coaching badges. If we're struggling under the teacher then what chance under the pupil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadsword Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 I've just punctured my cheek with my tongue. Medic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greco Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 I think Dunny needs to get the videos out and watch the last few years of Tugay if he wants to still operate at this level. He may be skillful enough but he is not quick enough now to drive past players like he used to. He cannot run box to box. He should watch what Tugay used to do. Get the ball, move it quickly, keep it simple and wait for the moment to play more incisive passes. exactly. kean seems to prefer dunn, playing the role of a deep lying playmaker, and there, he isnt meant to take risks. Instead he should, as you state, use his passing and vision, while keeping it simple. the difference though, is that tugay played an eternity without pace as a tool, whereas dunn has´nt, so he might not be comfortable playing such role. to me, he just seems so far of the pace, that i´ve written him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Dunny used to be a great player for Rovers. That is all. EDIT: actually there is something else. I've just been looking through our reserve team "squad" and there don't appear to be many midfielders there either. It almost feels like a dereliction of duty buy our scouts that we have so few (fit) midfielders on our books. It's largely down to our lack of midfield options that Dunny is having to continue as he is. Very sad the condition he is in considering he's only 31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Not good enough this season....legs are more or less gone at the top level. Time to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMailsTightPerm Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 exactly. kean seems to prefer dunn, playing the role of a deep lying playmaker, and there, he isnt meant to take risks. Instead he should, as you state, use his passing and vision, while keeping it simple. the difference though, is that tugay played an eternity without pace as a tool, whereas dunn has´nt, so he might not be comfortable playing such role. to me, he just seems so far of the pace, that i´ve written him off. I think Kean has in spot on - we don't have a midfield player currently fit that can put his foot on the ball. I think it will take him some time to grow into this new role - even Tugay occasionally got caught in possession when trying to make room for himself. IMO Dunn's main problem on Saturday was that he tried to run with the ball too much after making that little space for himself - rather than releasing the ball. I also have to say in defence of all our midfield - it is far more difficult to play a pass if players don't move for you. I am afraid that, at times, our team is rather static (possibly too long playing longer ball football) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo Posted December 27, 2010 Author Share Posted December 27, 2010 If Dunn is going to play a deeper role, then he needs someone alongside to do the leg-work and win the ball back. That man isn't Pedersen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Maybe he could be our next manager? But he'd have no premiership experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeti-dog Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 If Dunn is going to play a deeper role, then he needs someone alongside to do the leg-work and win the ball back. That man isn't Pedersen. If I have to choose one out of Dunn & Pedersen for the first XI then it's Pedersen every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo Posted December 27, 2010 Author Share Posted December 27, 2010 If I have to choose one out of Dunn & Pedersen for the first XI then it's Pedersen every time. Either way, they should never play as a midfield pair again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majiball Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Happy Birthday Dunny! Lets hope he abstains from cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAL Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 If Dunn is going to play a deeper role, then he needs someone alongside to do the leg-work and win the ball back. That man isn't Pedersen. Dunny looks deeper purely because he cant get his arse into gear to move further up the pitch. No legs, no pace, leaves Dunny looking cruelly exposed on a premiership football field nowadays. First half Stoke, Rovers attacking down the left, near to the Riverside, either Olsson, or MGP, played the ball back to Dunny, Dunny being woefully slow, losses the attacking initiative by losing possesion allowing Stoke to then attack our goals catching more than half of our team out. Sadly this wasnt the only solitary incident concerning Dunny during this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Tom Posted December 27, 2010 Backroom Share Posted December 27, 2010 Fat, slow and thinks he's better than he is. Lost count of the times he has put us under pressure by trying to take on too many men and getting tackled, he still tries to play like he is 24. Still has an element of danger due to him having a good shot on him but at present causes far more danger to us than other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Honestly, we'd have been better off with 10 men in the last 2 matches. More than anything, I lost count of the amount of times he just did nothing when in posession - literally stood with the ball - and lost posession easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathund Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 He should watch what Tugay used to do. Get the ball, move it quickly, keep it simple and wait for the moment to play more incisive passes. I don't think he has the ability to do that. Dunn was always at his best when, as you say, he was driving forward. IMO doesn't have the discipline, vision (He is creative, but not in quite the same manner as a Tugay, Pirlo, Xavi type of player) or even the accuracy. I've never seen the passing game as his major strength. Lost count of the times he has put us under pressure by trying to take on too many men and getting tackled, he still tries to play like he is 24. He did this even during his purple patch last season. His goals made up for it then though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Dunn is a mood player if ever there was one. I think he simply looks like his heart has gone out of his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby G Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Possibly replaced by his stomach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Tom Posted December 28, 2010 Backroom Share Posted December 28, 2010 Dunn is a mood player if ever there was one. I think he simply looks like his heart has gone out of his game. If it has it's certainly nothing to do with the change in management as he's been crap all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted December 28, 2010 Backroom Share Posted December 28, 2010 I'm not sure whether injury after injury have taken the spirit out of Dunn's game or whether he's just lazy and cannot be bothered to get into shape, but either way we can't afford to carry him in his present state. He either needs to make some serious effort to get himself into better shape or if he can't do that adapt his game so that he can still be useful to us without needing to run for extended periods. If neither of those happens he should really be sold, but it'd be a shame to see a local lad have his career here fizzle out in such a poor way so I'm hoping he finds a way to rejuvenate himself again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kenny's Magic Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Dunn is a mood player if ever there was one. I think he simply looks like his heart has gone out of his game. He's finished. His legs have gone completely and it's sad to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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