chaddyrovers Posted Saturday at 19:26 Posted Saturday at 19:26 expecting a draw, the pitch is flat and don't forget that Lancashire have drawn all 4 home games this season. the last test was full of entertainment. 2005 Ashes series was full of entertainment and excitement, plus it got people interested in test match cricket again. 1 Quote
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Tyrone Shoelaces Posted Saturday at 20:33 Posted Saturday at 20:33 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: expecting a draw, the pitch is flat and don't forget that Lancashire have drawn all 4 home games this season. the last test was full of entertainment. 2005 Ashes series was full of entertainment and excitement, plus it got people interested in test match cricket again. And then they sold the rights to Sky and most of those new cricket fans were left out in the cold. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted Saturday at 21:07 Posted Saturday at 21:07 32 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: And then they sold the rights to Sky and most of those new cricket fans were left out in the cold. Well pay for the Sky Subscription then if watching live cricket means that much to you. BBC doesn't have the funds to pay for Cricket rights and the other channels aren't interested Quote
Gav Posted Saturday at 22:42 Posted Saturday at 22:42 10 hours ago, wilsdenrover said: I think we’ve broken India 😁 10 hours ago, K-Hod said: Aye, can’t see them reaching 311, with that start. Even if they do, will be a very quick run chase, I’d have thought 😅. 🤔 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted Saturday at 23:07 Posted Saturday at 23:07 6 hours ago, wilsdenrover said: I thought it might be all over today. I’m starting to think we’d need a day six. It's a problem Lancs have faced for years too - that Old Trafford pitch just doesn't deteriorate. It's too hard. 1 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted Sunday at 05:53 Moderation Lead Posted Sunday at 05:53 7 hours ago, Gav said: 🤔 Looks like I was wrong, these things happen. Hindsight sees in 20/20. Quote
47er Posted Sunday at 12:16 Posted Sunday at 12:16 Shame Root couldn't take that catch in the slips to give Archer 2 wickets in 2 balls just on lunch. Magnificent attempt though, very fast, very high. 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted Sunday at 12:57 Posted Sunday at 12:57 (edited) Something that occurred to me the other day. Why wasn’t Pant batting with a runner when he obviously had a very sore foot ? Edited Sunday at 12:57 by Tyrone Shoelaces 1 Quote
oldjamfan1 Posted Sunday at 13:21 Posted Sunday at 13:21 23 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Something that occurred to me the other day. Why wasn’t Pant batting with a runner when he obviously had a very sore foot ? Yeah I wondered that as well. Quote
wilsdenrover Posted Sunday at 13:29 Posted Sunday at 13:29 31 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Something that occurred to me the other day. Why wasn’t Pant batting with a runner when he obviously had a very sore foot ? They (the BBC) said he wasn’t allowed a runner. Rules must have changed, don’t know when or how. 1 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted Sunday at 13:32 Posted Sunday at 13:32 14 hours ago, Gav said: 🤔 I might have got carried away 😁 1 Quote
jim mk2 Posted Sunday at 13:53 Posted Sunday at 13:53 55 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Something that occurred to me the other day. Why wasn’t Pant batting with a runner when he obviously had a very sore foot ? Runners now banned in club cricket at our level, not sure if the pro game has banned them too Quote
wilsdenrover Posted Sunday at 14:44 Posted Sunday at 14:44 15 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said: It's a problem Lancs have faced for years too - that Old Trafford pitch just doesn't deteriorate. It's too hard. Putting revenue above results? Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted Sunday at 15:09 Posted Sunday at 15:09 1 hour ago, wilsdenrover said: They (the BBC) said he wasn’t allowed a runner. Rules must have changed, don’t know when or how. Why change a rule that has worked well for decades. 1 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted Sunday at 15:58 Posted Sunday at 15:58 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Why change a rule that has worked well for decades. Perhaps it was felt teams were ‘abusing’ the rule? Apparently runners haven’t been allowed in International cricket since 2011! edited to add - just found this ( ‘hitters’ 🤦♂️🤦♂️): Edited Sunday at 16:01 by wilsdenrover 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted Sunday at 17:24 Posted Sunday at 17:24 2 hours ago, wilsdenrover said: Putting revenue above results? hardly, the pitch needed a wrist spinner. I wonder how something like the great Shane Warne would have bowled on the pitch 4 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Something that occurred to me the other day. Why wasn’t Pant batting with a runner when he obviously had a very sore foot ? They haven't been allowed for years now Tyrone Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted Sunday at 20:04 Posted Sunday at 20:04 (edited) 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: hardly, the pitch needed a wrist spinner. I wonder how something like the great Shane Warne would have bowled on the pitch They haven't been allowed for years now Tyrone We don’t seem to develop wrist spinners these days Chaddy. To be honest we didn’t develop many in the past. Off the top of my head I can only think of a few. One who played for Lancashire and England learnt his early cricket on the common I live facing - Tommy Greenhough. The old guys on here will remember him. It’s a difficult art to master. I tried as I kid and managed to get the leg break going sort of ok. Just for fun, I’d stick to what I knew in real games. Funny thing - when I leant to bowl the googly I lost the ability to bowl the leg break. Shane Warne was a freak. Probably the best spin bowler of all time. His level of accuracy was amazing for a wrist spinner. Edited Sunday at 20:05 by Tyrone Shoelaces 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted Sunday at 20:34 Posted Sunday at 20:34 (edited) On 27/07/2025 at 21:04, Tyrone Shoelaces said: We don’t seem to develop wrist spinners these days Chaddy. To be honest we didn’t develop many in the past. Off the top of my head I can only think of a few. One who played for Lancashire and England learnt his early cricket on the common I live facing - Tommy Greenhough. The old guys on here will remember him. It’s a difficult art to master. I tried as I kid and managed to get the leg break going sort of ok. Just for fun, I’d stick to what I knew in real games. Funny thing - when I leant to bowl the googly I lost the ability to bowl the leg break. Shane Warne was a freak. Probably the best spin bowler of all time. His level of accuracy was amazing for a wrist spinner. They didn't see to many wrist spinners in world cricket I tried to become a wrist spinner 25 years ago but the lack of coaching and people telling to drop it and just become a medium pacer bowler. Shane Warne was a great cricketer and a legend. One of my favourite ever cricketer along with Sachin Tendulkar, James Anderson, Andrew Flintoff, Darren Gough and Alec Stewart Edited 23 hours ago by chaddyrovers 2 Quote
47er Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Both Stokes and Archer ruled out of 5th Test. Bloody hell, India are going to draw the series aren't they? Quote
jim mk2 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Stokes and Archer are like vintage cars - push them too hard and they break down Atkinson and Overton have themselves had injury problems this summer while Wood is a walking hospital case These players don't play anything the amount of "red ball" (first class county) matches like those of the past and perhaps that's the problem - they're not match hardened Quote
Gav Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 38 minutes ago, 47er said: Both Stokes and Archer ruled out of 5th Test. Bloody hell, India are going to draw the series aren't they? Archer was never going to play, but Stokes will be a miss. Bumrah out for India also, so that even things up a bit. Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 7 hours ago, Gav said: Archer was never going to play, but Stokes will be a miss. Bumrah out for India also, so that even things up a bit. Obviously not a bowler but Pant will be a big loss for them too. 1 Quote
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