Dunnfc Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 I thought he'd been watching top German sides whilst unemployed? Sounds a dry drab match... yet again! Hoping he can turn it around pronto.
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Backroom Tom Posted January 2, 2016 Backroom Posted January 2, 2016 We are infuriatingly bad at present and whatever it is we are doing isn't working but I have infinitely more faith in Lambert to sort it than Bowyer and hope he is supported to do so. The squad he inherited is beyond awful and was heading one way.
G Somerset Rover Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 It's true it was heading one way but I have been very, very surprised at just how bad we have been under PL to date. As I keep saying, we're not even creating chances let alone scoring. That's the sign of a team who is not close to getting out of a rut. He desperately needs to get some new blood in and fast as this is extremely worrying.
booth Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 Players not playing for him or tactically we don't have the players to suit his style (eg, good ones)? Either way we're only heading one way.
Stuart Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 Mentality needs to change as much as the quality.
Husky Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 Not enough bubbles in the team bath since Mr Matey got canned?
Backroom DE. Posted January 2, 2016 Author Backroom Posted January 2, 2016 Players not playing for him or tactically we don't have the players to suit his style (eg, good ones)? Either way we're only heading one way. A combination of both IMV. Certain players appear to have downed tools, perhaps in resentment over having their holiday camp taken away, others are just lower league players that should be nowhere near this club. Big changes needed this month. If Lambert cannot bring in significant additional personnel we're looking at a very difficult last few months of the season.
the original david brent Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 Plenty of Rovers fans have been critical about the recent performances, but this has been tempered by an acknowledgement that Lambert needs time to stamp his mark on the team, and is the one manager in five years who deserves some slack cutting. Blueboy's scathing attacks on our new manager suggest an irrational hatred of some kind. I don't know if it's an Old Firm thing, or that he has ties to Bowyer, or what, but it definitely stinks. Blueboy has already stated it has nothing to do with Lambert 's Celtic connections.Whilst I was extremely happy with Lambert's appointment, and I continue to support him, I do not think he should be exempt from criticism. To this extent I accept some of what Blueboy is saying, although I intend just to make one post about it. The cold facts are we have just lost 3 in a row, after today's result we are near the bottom of the championship form guide (having been near the top only a month ago) and a Rovers player has not scored a goal in open play since Lambert came in. The consensus is our overall performances have been cr@p, key players have gone backwards. Indeed I've watched most of he games under Lambert and we haven't played well in any of them, save perhaps one half against forest. I was certainly of the camp that we already had decent players and a good manager could get more out of them. Maybe I am completely wrong, although Lambert certainly implied as much when he first came. It's seems the goal posts have now moved and the view is the players are substandard. Bayes and Wheelock should be asking him some telling questions. Both were scathing about the performance on Radio Lancs - they should be asking why performances have gone backwards and what is he going to do to address this ?
Athlete Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 A combination of both IMV. Certain players appear to have downed tools, perhaps in resentment over having their holiday camp taken away, others are just lower league players that should be nowhere near this club. Big changes needed this month. If Lambert cannot bring in significant additional personnel we're looking at a very difficult last few months of the season. I think you've hit the nail on the head.. Even at the beginning under PL we rode our luck slightly with the new manager bounce perhaps but I really thought we'd kick on but we haven't we've gone backwards
Stuart Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 Blueboy has already stated it has nothing to do with Lambert 's Celtic connections. Whilst I was extremely happy with Lambert's appointment, and I continue to support him, I do not think he should be exempt from criticism. To this extent I accept some of what Blueboy is saying, although I intend just to make one post about it. The cold facts are we have just lost 3 in a row, after today's result we are near the bottom of the championship form guide (having been near the top only a month ago) and a Rovers player has not scored a goal in open play since Lambert came in. The consensus is our overall performances have been cr@p, key players have gone backwards. Indeed I've watched most of he games under Lambert and we haven't played well in any of them, save perhaps one half against forest. I was certainly of the camp that we already had decent players and a good manager could get more out of them. Maybe I am completely wrong, although Lambert certainly implied as much when he first came. It's seems the goal posts have now moved and the view is the players are substandard. Bayes and Wheelock should be asking him some telling questions. Both were scathing about the performance on Radio Lancs - they should be asking why performances have gone backwards and what is he going to do to address this ? The answer to the 'why' for that will solve our problems. Personally I'm convinced that it's a culture shock for the player who are being demanded more from. At first it was a novelty but now they realise this is the norm they are struggling to cope. Bowyer pandered to it, Lambert won't.Just my view.
Amo Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 Blueboy has already stated it has nothing to do with Lambert 's Celtic connections. Oh, well I guess that's that then. He's hardly going to come out and admit it, is he? Whilst I was extremely happy with Lambert's appointment, and I continue to support him, I do not think he should be exempt from criticism. To this extent I accept some of what Blueboy is saying, although I intend just to make one post about it. No one said that Lambert should be exempt from criticism. Look around, no one is under any illusion about the recent results. However, Blueboy's criticism of Lambert bordered on obsessive and seemed suggestive of an ulterior motive.
tomphil Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 We were ALWAYS going to struggle this season, the evidence was already there before Lambert came through the door. Barring a few nice passes early this season we are seeing virtually the same now as this time last year. The new manager bounce and a bit of luck helped by the team working harder because of that bounce enabled us to get a few points. Problem now is a side that was used to having an arm around it's shoulder and being told it did well despite being @#/? is probably now hearing a few home truths. Some will have their noses out of joint at this and others will maybe know they are for the chop, added to the few who might think they can do better and want out we could have a dangerous situation developing. The heads sound like they aren't there now and going through the motions is evident again I'm afraid. One thing didn't happen under Bowyer because of the molly coddling and blind eye he turned to some stuff and that is the heads never dropped. Big big job for Lambert now and they MUST back him with at least wages for some quality loans otherwise it would be no surprise to see Irvine in the hot seat before February is out knowing our owners.
sambo Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 As it stands I believe Lambert is proving a woeful appointment. I am Bowyers biggest critic but he never dragged the team to this level. Utterly garbage and Lambert is taking us backwards. Huge improvement required.
tomphil Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 Players not playing for him or tactically we don't have the players to suit his style (eg, good ones)? Either way we're only heading one way. I said on twitter before the match that if he doesn't get two or three good players in key positions we will revert to playing just like under Bowyer before long because these lot were put together to play that way and can't really do anything else. Either way it won't do any good until a complete overhaul which won't happen till summer anyway.
deryck guyler's spoon Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 Blueboy's criticism of Lambert bordered on obsessive and seemed suggestive of an ulterior motive. To be fair, it could easily be suggested that your criticism of the last boss was equally as obsessive. Any supporter has the right to point out recent results and performances. Lambert arrived to great fanfare and so, such a short 'bounce' and subsequent collapse is open to scrutiny. The mainstay of that 'scrutiny' appears to be that the players aren't buying into PL's fantastic training methods and tactics having been given such an easy ride by the incompetent Bowyer. What absolute crap. Certain people want to have their cake and eat it. Lambert has had a reasonable amount of time and games to at least show signs of some progress. By most estimations we've gone backwards. I still believe in him, he hasn't had anything like enough time but it is fair enough to now begin judging him by the same standards that Bowyer was. So far, not so good.
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted January 2, 2016 Moderation Lead Posted January 2, 2016 As it stands I believe Lambert is proving a woeful appointment. I am Bowyers biggest critic but he never dragged the team to this level. Utterly garbage and Lambert is taking us backwards. Huge improvement required.As it stands yes, but he's not been here long and still has Bowyer's squad.
ABBEY Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 To be fair, it could easily be suggested that your criticism of the last boss was equally as obsessive. Any supporter has the right to point out recent results and performances. Lambert arrived to great fanfare and so, such a short 'bounce' and subsequent collapse is open to scrutiny. The mainstay of that 'scrutiny' appears to be that the players aren't buying into PL's fantastic training methods and tactics having been given such an easy ride by the incompetent Bowyer. What absolute crap. Certain people want to have their cake and eat it. Lambert has had a reasonable amount of time and games to at least show signs of some progress. By most estimations we've gone backwards. I still believe in him, he hasn't had anything like enough time but it is fair enough to now begin judging him by the same standards that Bowyer was. So far, not so good. Reasonable amount of time and games ..Christ he hasn't even had a transfer day yet let alone time to stamp his mark.
Baz Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 This is the worst squad Ive seen in 30+ years at Ewood. PL is still assessing it, but at present he doesn't have the players to be able to change a game. He needs to get more out of the players, and quickly, but we do need to give him a bit of time. A central midfield partnership of Akpan and Williamson isn't good enough for league 2, and neither are strikers like Koita, Delfy and Brown.
sambo Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 As it stands yes, but he's not been here long and still has Bowyer's squad. We all said how a new manager could do more with this squad, yet Lambert has dragged it to new levels. His whole reign is the carbon copy of Appleton
deryck guyler's spoon Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 Reasonable amount of time and games ..Christ he hasn't even had a transfer day yet let alone time to stamp his mark. How many games should he be allowed in order to 'make his mark'? 8 not enough?
oldjamfan1 Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 never thought of that..you may be spot on . I made the same point a few days ago. Having lived in Glasgow for 20 years I can say from experience it would be a typical way for someone to try and couch their bigoted feelings towards someone from the other side of the Old Firm, particularly to try and do it in a semi articulate way but slip up with the odd out of context expletive descriptor. That said, it could be a red herring, and the lad/lassie did deny that his or her stance was anything to do with Lambert having worn the hoops for seven years and being instrumental in preventing Rangers winning ten-in-a-row. I'm not convinced, myself, but maybe I've just been in Glasgow too long.. This is the worst squad Ive seen in 30+ years at Ewood. PL is still assessing it, but at present he doesn't have the players to be able to change a game. He needs to get more out of the players, and quickly, but we do need to give him a bit of time. A central midfield partnership of Akpan and Williamson isn't good enough for league 2, and neither are strikers like Koita, Delfy and Brown. This. Spot on.
sambo Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 I made the same point a few days ago. Having lived in Glasgow for 20 years I can say from experience it would be a typical way for someone to try and couch their bigoted feelings towards someone from the other side of the Old Firm, particularly to try and do it in a semi articulate way but slip up with the odd out of context expletive descriptor. That said, it could be a red herring, and the lad/lassie did deny that his or her stance was anything to do with Lambert having worn the hoops for seven years and being instrumental in preventing Rangers winning ten-in-a-row. I'm not convinced, myself, but maybe I've just been in Glasgow too long.. This. Spot on. As it stands Lambert could be a big part in us not scoring 'ten in a row'.
ABBEY Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 How many games should he be allowed in order to 'make his mark'? 8 not enough?Is it hell
tomphil Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 We all said how a new manager could do more with this squad, yet Lambert has dragged it to new levels. His whole reign is the carbon copy of Appleton No coincidence that the squad is now at it's poorest since then though. Just replace uninterested unfit overpaid prima donnas with mostly average and poor cast offs and journey men. Years of dumbing down and constantly replacing one overpaid paid useless player with another less paid and more useless players has come to this. We ain't much better than Bolton in that respect.
deryck guyler's spoon Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 Is it hellThat's some 'Honeymoon period'.Reality is that the honeymoon has been a wet weekend in Grange over Sands.
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