ABBEY Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 8 hours ago, had.e.nuff said: just watched the penalty shoot out why do keepers not risk standing still they would have stopped at least 3 of the pens Penalty shootout? turned it over at FT , why was there a shootout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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roverandout Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 20 minutes ago, ABBEY said: Penalty shootout? turned it over at FT , why was there a shootout? Euro play off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted March 27 Moderation Lead Share Posted March 27 As ever with England, if you go beyond our strongest XI, there is a drop off in quality. Iโd back our strongest team to give anyone a game, just there are some players we really cannot do without. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABBEY Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 9 hours ago, roverandout said: Euro play off Haha stuff the sheep shaggers. I won't forget their celebrationsย Edited March 27 by ABBEY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blow-in Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 5 hours ago, K-Hod said: As ever with England, if you go beyond our strongest XI, there is a drop off in quality. Iโd back our strongest team to give anyone a game, just there are some players we really cannot do without. It's the same or worse for any international team. France are considered one of the best teams in the world but a lot of their first team would not get near the England first 11. If England don't win Euros then Southgate should not even be considered for a PL job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeeeeeedie Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 5 hours ago, K-Hod said: As ever with England, if you go beyond our strongest XI, there is a drop off in quality. Iโd back our strongest team to give anyone a game, just there are some players we really cannot do without. Hard to disagree on the drop off. Yet what team aside from maybe France (excluding Mbappe) could you say that for? Last night was essentially it for Southgate. His next games are tournament warm-ups. He will already know 80%+ of his squad, now he has to wait and hope that all the players he wants stay fit. 9 of his 11 is set; Pickford, Walker, Stones, Maguire (yes, he'll play if fit), Rice, Bellingham, Saka, Foden, Kane. He needs to decide on a midfield partner for Rice, and a left back. Of Southgate's usuals Grealish, Shaw, Trippier, Alexander-Arnold, Pope, and James are injured. Potential new boy Colwill is too. I assume if they are all fit come end of May they'll be in the squad.ย Toney, Rashford, Watkins will be in the squad as will Chilwell and Gallagher. Phillips, Sterling, and probably Henderson are gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upside Down Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 5 hours ago, Blow-in said: It's the same or worse for any international team. France are considered one of the best teams in the world but a lot of their first team would not get near the England first 11. If England don't win Euros then Southgate should not even be considered for a PL job. I think he should be given the red scum job. Hopefully he'll get them relegated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverandout Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 On 27/03/2024 at 08:03, K-Hod said: As ever with England, if you go beyond our strongest XI, there is a drop off in quality. Iโd back our strongest team to give anyone a game, just there are some players we really cannot do without. Probably defensively but attack wise we are stacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted March 28 Moderation Lead Share Posted March 28 49 minutes ago, roverandout said: Probably defensively but attack wise we are stacked Maybe, but not at centre forward. Thereโs a huge drop off in quality from Kane to Toney and Watkins (and I rate them both, tbf). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superniko Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) On 27/03/2024 at 14:06, speeeeeeedie said: Hard to disagree on the drop off. Yet what team aside from maybe France (excluding Mbappe) could you say that for? Last night was essentially it for Southgate. His next games are tournament warm-ups. He will already know 80%+ of his squad, now he has to wait and hope that all the players he wants stay fit. 9 of his 11 is set; Pickford, Walker, Stones, Maguire (yes, he'll play if fit), Rice, Bellingham, Saka, Foden, Kane. He needs to decide on a midfield partner for Rice, and a left back. Of Southgate's usuals Grealish, Shaw, Trippier, Alexander-Arnold, Pope, and James are injured. Potential new boy Colwill is too. I assume if they are all fit come end of May they'll be in the squad.ย Toney, Rashford, Watkins will be in the squad as will Chilwell and Gallagher. Phillips, Sterling, and probably Henderson are gone. Yeah, providing all are fit, there is about 6 or 7 of the 23 spots up for grabs, 16 nailed on if fit. 3rd choice keeper who will get 0 minutes 2 x CBs who will get 0 minutes (Branthwaite, Colwill, Guehi, Konsa, Gomez, Tomori, maybe Chilwell) 1 x CM between Gallagher and Henderson 3 x Attacker who may get a handful of minutes in final group match (Watkins, Toney, Bowen, Gordon, Palmer, Grealish) ย Pickford, Ramsdale, GK3 Walker, Trent, Shaw, Trippier, Maguire, Stones, CB1, CB2 Rice, Mainoo, Bellingham, Maddison, CM1 Kane, Saka, Foden, Rashford FW1, FW2, FW3 Maybe he opts for another Defender or Midfielder instead of the final Attacker, given Trent will be CM or nothing. ย Agree with the 11 (or 9) you listed too, providing all are fit, slow in Shaw LB and Trent alongside Rice and we have no excuses to not win the whole thing Edited March 28 by superniko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverandout Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 3 hours ago, K-Hod said: Maybe, but not at centre forward. Thereโs a huge drop off in quality from Kane to Toney and Watkins (and I rate them both, tbf). Tbf France for example have a huge drop off in quality compared to giroud. Muani and thuram don't look top quality.ย Obviously they have mbappe but he's more of a wide forward.ย They really would struggle without himย Edited March 28 by roverandout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDom Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 The way Bellingham plays and talks is like someone whose been playing for 15 years. Still only 20, he will be a big big player for England 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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