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Upside Down Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Hopefully he knows what a striker looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 Coach, Academy Manager and Scout - Sean Kimberley - Industry Chat #19 - YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewood Ace Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Another appointment with next to no experience in senior football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Why did he leave the Rovers ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 Just now, rigger said: Why did he leave the Rovers ? from the article In 2007, he joined Aston Villa as Youth Development Officer, heading up their Academy recruitment, before being promoted to Academy Director in 2014, assuming responsibility for overseeing the Midlands club’s longstanding excellence in youth development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: from the article In 2007, he joined Aston Villa as Youth Development Officer, heading up their Academy recruitment, before being promoted to Academy Director in 2014, assuming responsibility for overseeing the Midlands club’s longstanding excellence in youth development. That is why he joined Villa. What I wanted to know is why he left the Rovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Been a lot of pissing around in the recruitment department over the last few years with staff coming and going so hard to see this as a new dawn until the actual recruitment improves. This season its not improved or changed (borrowing kids including a token one from Liverpool, players on Mowbray's list and players already known to staff ie Thomas and windows that were as much about what we didnt get and paperwork embarassments) and with seemingly a closed wallet in the summer, time for Kimberley and Broughton to show what they can offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 8 minutes ago, rigger said: That is why he joined Villa. What I wanted to know is why he left the Rovers. That's why to join VIlla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: That's why to join VIlla At the time going to villa was a step backwards. In fact I would even say at the moment our academy is better than Villas. I am not saying that the appointment is a bad one. I just wanted to know why he decided to leave the Rovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Been a lot of pissing around in the recruitment department over the last few years with staff coming and going so hard to see this as a new dawn until the actual recruitment improves. This season its not improved or changed (borrowing kids including a token one from Liverpool, players on Mowbray's list and players already known to staff ie Thomas and windows that were as much about what we didnt get and paperwork embarassments) and with seemingly a closed wallet in the summer, time for Kimberley and Broughton to show what they can offer. Players on Mowbray's list? isn't it the club list not Mowbray's list. Also the paperwork embarrassment is zero involvement from the recruitment department/team but that problem belong with the Club Secretary/admin department Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 8 minutes ago, rigger said: At the time going to villa was a step backwards. In fact I would even say at the moment our academy is better than Villas. I am not saying that the appointment is a bad one. I just wanted to know why he decided to leave the Rovers. was the Rovers academy better than Villa in 2007? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Just now, chaddyrovers said: was the Rovers academy better than Villa in 2007? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbie6590 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 https://twitter.com/NYCRovers/status/1648043026420232206?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 4 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said: https://twitter.com/NYCRovers/status/1648043026420232206?s=20 He worked in the academy now the first team back then. Clearly didn't see the statement properly did he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 4 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said: https://twitter.com/NYCRovers/status/1648043026420232206?s=20 Weird comment. Why would the Assistant Academy Manager be responsible for recruiting £5 million strikers? Is it just meant to be a really poor quality nonsensical joke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 All I want to know is, has this guy been in charge of recruitment at senior level elsewhere? If he hasn't, he shouldn't be getting near this job. If he has, what was his track record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilInBristol Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 5 minutes ago, bluebruce said: All I want to know is, has this guy been in charge of recruitment at senior level elsewhere? If he hasn't, he shouldn't be getting near this job. If he has, what was his track record? Nepotism. Jobs for the boys. No experience in this department. Wish I could get a job as head of recruitment without having any experience of recruitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaloBRFC Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, Neilbristol said: Nepotism. Jobs for the boys. No experience in this department. Wish I could get a job as head of recruitment without having any experience of recruitment. Led emerging talent recruitment at Celtic, Head of first team scouting at Plymouth, Head of academy recruitment leading a huge department at Villa…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 9 minutes ago, Neilbristol said: Nepotism. Jobs for the boys. No experience in this department. Wish I could get a job as head of recruitment without having any experience of recruitment. After leaving Aston Villa in 2019, Sean has held scouting positions with Plymouth Argyle and Scottish champions Celtic, and returns to Rovers with 30 years’ experience of coaching, development and recruitment of players at both youth and elite level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: After leaving Aston Villa in 2019, Sean has held scouting positions with Plymouth Argyle and Scottish champions Celtic, and returns to Rovers with 30 years’ experience of coaching, development and recruitment of players at both youth and elite level So he has had a few years of being a scout, sending reports to someone else but not making the decisions himself? I wouldn't say that qualifies him for the post, not at a club like ours. In fact if one of those gigs was at Celtic, he may have worked under our previous head of recruitment John Park? This isn't an area we should skimp in. Relative to players, these sorts of roles don't cost us much, but the cost of bad recruitment vs good recruitment is immense. It's a false economy to get someone inexperienced because they're cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: After leaving Aston Villa in 2019, Sean has held scouting positions with Plymouth Argyle and Scottish champions Celtic, and returns to Rovers with 30 years’ experience of coaching, development and recruitment of players at both youth and elite level What I take from this, is that he left Rovers to try to better his career. This didn't quite work out for him. His downward spiral was not as dramatic as ours, but he has ended up at our level. Is he a good recruit for us ? I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller11 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) The bigger the recruitment department gets the harder we seem to find it to bring in players! Joking aside Broughton needs this third window to be a bloody good one. Even if you absolve him of all blame for the O’Brien fiasco (and you can’t) his inability to bring in even a bog standard striker means he’s been a failure thus far. Edited April 17 by Miller11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 18 minutes ago, bluebruce said: So he has had a few years of being a scout, sending reports to someone else but not making the decisions himself? I wouldn't say that qualifies him for the post, not at a club like ours. GB and JDT made the final decisions on who we signed. His job is scouting players and finalise a shortlist of targets for each position 18 minutes ago, bluebruce said: In fact if one of those gigs was at Celtic, he may have worked under our previous head of recruitment John Park? don't know 18 minutes ago, bluebruce said: This isn't an area we should skimp in. Relative to players, these sorts of roles don't cost us much, but the cost of bad recruitment vs good recruitment is immense. It's a false economy to get someone inexperienced because they're cheap. I agree that we shouldn't go cheap but we go for the right person who fits the role. Also depends who was interested in the job also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilInBristol Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 31 minutes ago, rigger said: What I take from this, is that he left Rovers to try to better his career. This didn't quite work out for him. His downward spiral was not as dramatic as ours, but he has ended up at our level. Is he a good recruit for us ? I doubt it. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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