Premier League

[chaddyrovers]

11 hours ago, GHR said:

Franchised clubs and closed leagues (i.e. no promotion or relegation) are also popular in American sport. I wonder if those such things were proposed over here, would they get the same positive reception from some quarters on the basis of broadening the game's appeal and appealing to overseas audiences...?

You witness the reaction of fans up and down England when 6 PL, 3 Italian and 3 Spanish tried to set up an European Super League  

Promotion and relegation is part and parcel of football 

47 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Reading through these posts it appears that you are the only one who likes the idea of pitch side interviews and dressing room cameras. I think that ratio would be reflected throughout football as I believe the vast majority will see it for what it is - an unnecessary, superfluous sales gimmick.

Probably cos I open to new ideas and trying these things out. Plus I seen it for years in NBA players/head coaches during a game or showing locker room footage during Rugby league games or speaking to F1 team principles during F1 qualifying sessions and races. Other sports have done so why not football. Let's be honest it going a small bit of dressing room footage and nothing more probably about 10 to 15 seconds clips of what is happening in the dressing room and a couple of interviews with players who have been sub. Not that much of a change isn't it. 

47 minutes ago, arbitro said:

It wasn't the football authorities in England who wanted VAR. The clubs wanted it and fund it. Had it not been for Covid it would have been in the Championship a few seasons ago. It has it's bad points but has also righted many wrongs which is the main purpose of it.

Still the game can be stopped for a number of minutes, no communication to the fans. In International Rugby Union you can hear what the ref and VAR person are saying. So why can't Football do that

Edited 15 hours ago by chaddyrovers

[arbitro]

31 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You witness the reaction of fans up and down England when 6 PL, 3 Italian and 3 Spanish tried to set up an European Super League  

Promotion and relegation is part and parcel of football 

Probably cos I open to new ideas and trying these things out. Plus I seen it for years in NBA players/head coaches during a game or showing locker room footage during Rugby league games or speaking to F1 team principles during F1 qualifying sessions and races. Other sports have done so why not football. Let's be honest it going a small bit of dressing room footage and nothing more probably about 10 to 15 seconds clips of what is happening in the dressing room and a couple of interviews with players who have been sub. Not that much of a change isn't it. 

Still the game can be stopped for a number of minutes, no communication to the fans. In International Rugby Union you can hear what the ref and VAR person are saying. So why can't Football do that

New ideas of innovations should only be done when there is a tangible benefit. I don't see any upside at all in this.

Your view is your choice but for the majority of football supporters it's unnecessary and gimmicky.

 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

3 minutes ago, arbitro said:

New ideas of innovations should only be done when there is a tangible benefit. I don't see any upside at all in this.

Your view is your choice but for the majority of football supporters it's unnecessary and gimmicky.

 

Nobody coming off during the game will give away much. It’s just the usual banal platitudes.

[Wheelton Blue]

Cameras in the dressing room? That'll go down well when we've just lost 2-0 at home on a Tuesday night in January.

Designed purely for the supposed benefit of the Sky fraternity.

Gimmickry nonsense.

Edited 10 hours ago by Wheelton Blue

[rigger]

Would the dressing-room interviews be carried out in the womens game as well ?

[DE.]

2 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Nobody coming off during the game will give away much. It’s just the usual banal platitudes.

I mean, we've all seen how 'insightful' ex and current footballers are as pundits - and that's with time to prepare. Banal platitudes might be optimistic. Let's say a player does kick off in the heat of the moment - what does that achieve beyond titillating the redtop crowd? 

It's a terrible idea with little to no redeemable qualities. Just another step in transforming sport into pantomime. 

[GHD]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Probably cos I open to new ideas and trying these things out. Plus I seen it for years in NBA players/head coaches during a game or showing locker room footage during Rugby league games or speaking to F1 team principles during F1 qualifying sessions and races. Other sports have done so why not football. Let's be honest it going a small bit of dressing room footage and nothing more probably about 10 to 15 seconds clips of what is happening in the dressing room and a couple of interviews with players who have been sub. Not that much of a change isn't it. 

 

Locker room? That says it all

[davulsukur]

I'm not sure who gets any benefits of listening to a random Sunderland player, who's just been subbed, giving his opinion as to why Sunderland are 5-0 down at the Etihad after an hour.

Players will be limited on what they can/can't say.

Same goes for the any half time footage of the dressing room. Sky can't show Pep losing  his shit when his team are 1 down and he's going ballistic at his players.

[chaddyrovers]

9 hours ago, arbitro said:

New ideas of innovations should only be done when there is a tangible benefit. I don't see any upside at all in this.

Your view is your choice but for the majority of football supporters it's unnecessary and gimmicky.

 

These are small minor changes. nothing major and the coverage will the same

9 hours ago, Wheelton Blue said:

Cameras in the dressing room? That'll go down well when we've just lost 2-0 at home on a Tuesday night in January.

Designed purely for the supposed benefit of the Sky fraternity.

Gimmickry nonsense.

its for all the worldwide coverage, the USA get all 10 PL games live out there. so they will more these changes as will the Far East like China and Japan or BeIN Sports who broadcast all PL out there in 

6 hours ago, GHD said:

Locker room? That says it all

god sake, how pedantic can you get really

[roversfan99]

We shouldnt be pandering to foreign coverage wants and needs.

But either way, still to see why anyone would want to see these proposed changes. Gimmicky shite.

[chaddyrovers]

7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

We shouldnt be pandering to foreign coverage wants and needs.

But either way, still to see why anyone would want to see these proposed changes. Gimmicky shite.

you failed to understand how big the PL in other countries. Its massively in places like USA, Qatar, etc

Also the PL is global brand and no other league can match that. Another fact you are overlooking here. 

[roversfan99]

Im not overlooking it. Im well aware of it.

I dont think we should be making stupid changes to our game to try and appease foreign viewers. Although I still dont see the benefit that people get from hearing what a substituted player has to say or getting a glimpse into the changing room.

Eventually they will move our kick off times to suit foreign fans, I have no doubt.

[Wheelton Blue]

39 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

its for all the worldwide coverage, the USA get all 10 PL games live out there. so they will more these changes as will the Far East like China and Japan or BeIN Sports who broadcast all PL out there in 

Yeah, so simply for 'benefit' of the armchair dwelling , non-match going ,TV viewing 'fan'.

Whether that be Sky, BeIn or whoever and whereever on they planet they reside..

All the while, the oft ignored, true match going supporter, gets ripped off ever more.

[GHR]

I for one cannot wait for Google Arsenal Cannons vs. Microsoft Manchester Blues at the Super Awesome Life Insurance Arena in Kansas City in the 2035 Premier League. Americans will love this and old boys from Islington or Gorton who stood on the terraces at Highbury or Maine Road back in the 1960s should dry their misty eyes and be grateful some lads in Jakarta can watch it now.

Of course, us Rovers fans will all have found other pursuits as the Great Franchising Act of 2032 saw Blackburn Rovers FC disbanded and moved to a field in Bedfordshire, as the newly established Disneyland UK were looking for a sporting outlet to boost marketing. Legacy fans will be gently encouraged to follow the remaining franchise in Lancashire, Red Rose Thunder, based out Deepdale in Preston, whose former North End FC were flogged to Quito as apparently Ecuadorians were mad into the English game and wanted in on the financial spoils.

Those fans who can't quite get into the half time show, featuring Beyonce and Mariah Carey doing a reprise of the set they performed at Ineos Red Devils v. Todd Boely FC in Doha last week, will be welcome to tune into Sky's half time show, featuring Cole Palmer analyse Yamal's shitting patterns with the lucidity and thoughtful insight of a drunk toddler.

Full steam backwards comrades.

[chaddyrovers]

46 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Im not overlooking it. Im well aware of it.

I dont think we should be making stupid changes to our game to try and appease foreign viewers. Although I still dont see the benefit that people get from hearing what a substituted player has to say or getting a glimpse into the changing room.

Eventually they will move our kick off times to suit foreign fans, I have no doubt.

Lets look at this in serious manner, its a minor change and probably one that will be seen mostly in overseas TV coverage and we will barely seen a change in Sky Sports Coverage. 

 

24 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

Yeah, so simply for 'benefit' of the armchair dwelling , non-match going ,TV viewing 'fan'.

Whether that be Sky, BeIn or whoever and whereever on they planet they reside..

All the while, the oft ignored, true match going supporter, gets ripped off ever more.

Well if you are in the stadium watching the game, you won't seen these changes will you? 

 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

8 hours ago, GHD said:

Locker room? That says it all

It’s like the one that’s crept into Rugby League - “ Sheds “  instead of changing rooms. Last time I got changed in a shed I was about 13.  Bloody Australians !

[Wheelton Blue]

13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well if you are in the stadium watching the game, you won't seen these changes will you? 

 

As I said, "simply for 'benefit' of the armchair dwelling , non-match going ,TV viewing 'fan'."

As is every supposed 'improvement' they seem to make. We are not even an afterthought.

[GHD]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Lets look at this in serious manner, its a minor change and probably one that will be seen mostly in overseas TV coverage and we will barely seen a change in Sky Sports Coverage. 

Well if you are in the stadium watching the game, you won't seen these changes will you? 

 

It’s only a matter of time before the Premier League pander to Sky’s long held objective of having breaks in play to broadcast adverts. Do you think some in the stadium will welcome that as, at least, they’ll be able to pour a cup of coffee from their thermos, every 20 minutes or so, without missing a kick

Edited 1 hour ago by GHD

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, Wheelton Blue said:

As I said, "simply for 'benefit' of the armchair dwelling , non-match going ,TV viewing 'fan'."

As is every supposed 'improvement' they seem to make. We are not even an afterthought.

 

34 minutes ago, GHD said:

It’s only a matter of time before the Premier League pander to Sky’s long held objective of having breaks in play to broadcast adverts. Do you think some in the stadium will welcome that as, at least, they’ll be able to pour a cup of coffee from their thermos, every 20 minutes or so, without missing a kick

These changes won't have any impact on match day supporters

[Meeeeeeeeeee]

I don't see how they can watch at half time as they will be giving tactics.  If it's live the opposition will have someone watching it.