Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach

[Tomphil2]

If we had an actual board of directors, proper ones, he'd have been in the 3 games and at least 3 points or your out ages ago.

[DE.]

2 hours ago, G Somerset Rover said:

1 win in 14 is almost a third of a season. How in God’s name is this guy under zero pressure? I mean, we know the answer but it’s absolutely infuriating.

It's ridiculous, really. Granted Mowbray had some similar shocking runs of form, but he had some credit in the bank from our promotion season and more generally keeping us in and around the top half most of the time. It always turned around eventually, albeit usually too late for us to get into the top six. It was infuriating in its own way, but for a club that seemingly just wants to hang around the Championship forever, it was understandable that they'd trust him to eventually reverse the nosedive for a while.

Ismael has none of this. He tanked our playoff chances last season from the moment he stepped in the door. His record this season is appalling. Our home record especially is pathetic. His pre-Rovers record largely reads as "gets found out after less than a year and leaves".

There is zero reason to believe he'll turn anything around, even after the mythical injury apocalypse clears up (if it ever does). 

 

[MarkBRFC]

12 hours ago, G Somerset Rover said:

1 win in 14 is almost a third of a season. How in God’s name is this guy under zero pressure? I mean, we know the answer but it’s absolutely infuriating.

Yep, but just for clarification...

1, Football results aren't the priority here.

2, Ismael is doing exactly what this regime wants of him.

 

Edited yesterday at 08:20 by MarkBRFC

[Mattyblue]

This place ‘gets it’.

Big loook at what gets posted on the official social media feeds after another game without a win.

’sacked in the morning’’

’Got to go after that’

’taxi for Val’

The fanbase is largely still under the illusion that this club operates like the rest of professional football - I.e it’s about results and if you don’t get them you’re out.

 

[RevidgeBlue]

4 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

This place ‘gets it’.

Big loook at what gets posted on the official social media feeds after another game without a win.

’sacked in the morning’’

’Got to go after that’

’taxi for Val’

The fanbase is largely still under the illusion that this club operates like the rest of professional football - I.e it’s about results and if you don’t get them you’re out.

 

Irrespective of that he SHOULD still be gone though (and a long time ago) so Id expect anyone with half a brain cell to be saying that rather than "It doesnt matter because we don't operate like a normal Club."

It does matter. Massively.

[Mattyblue]

Of course he should, who’s saying otherwise?

The point being away from here there is still an expectation that he will be sacked any day now.

[RevidgeBlue]

10 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Of course he should, who’s saying otherwise?

The point being away from here there is still an expectation that he will be sacked any day now.

It's rather more a hope than an expectation in my case on the basis that it's becoming an increasingly odd look for the 2 stooges  if they don't act.

Ill carry on banging the drum on a daily basis though because I dont want us to go down without a whimper.

Imo if we don't get an absolute minimum return of 4 points from the next two home homes our fate will be sealed and I dont think Ismael will get them.

Should have gone long ago, but given he didn't the preparatory work should have been done to allow him to be sacked immediately following yesterday's game (where a boycott was being called) and give someone else a chance of getting a decent return from the next 2 games.

[BRFC.]

In bottom 3, he needs sacking but we know we aren’t a serious club so he’ll continue to do what he is told by the regime and be the yes man he was appointed to be. Pathetic excuse of a manager. 

[Ghost7]

The manager's been getting it wrong for months, heading back to September. The squad isn't great but it's better than where it is in the table. 4 at the back would have been fine in many fixtures against some really ordinary teams (Oxford, Charlton, Sheffield Wednesday, Portsmouth). Alebiosu as a right midfielder and Miller as a full back would have worked well at this level for much of it, along with Ribiero or Pickering at left back and Morishita as a left midfielder.

Ribiero, McLoughlin, Hyam, Miller.  Is how we ideally should have started every game this season. For what it's worth I think we'd have had a lot less injuries too. Playing with wing backs is intense for everyone, a back to basics type appointment earlier in the season and I'm confident we wouldn't have lost so many home games.

Ismael and the "data" approach has cost us a huge amount of points and potentially relegated us. In fact I'm fairly certain it's already sent us down and there will be no change in the dugout this season.

[StHelensRover]

Just posted in the relegation thread, 50pts usually the safety mark for relegation, therefore we need 7 wins or 6 wins and a few snookers to get to that.

I've no faith in this manager to play his part in getting us to that target. Has he even won 50 points in total during his time here?

[wilsdenrover]

8 minutes ago, StHelensRover said:

Just posted in the relegation thread, 50pts usually the safety mark for relegation, therefore we need 7 wins or 6 wins and a few snookers to get to that.

I've no faith in this manager to play his part in getting us to that target. Has he even won 50 points in total during his time here?

44 points from 40 games.

[wilsdenrover]

24 of those points were in two ‘runs’.

4 wins in a row last season

4 wins in 5 matches this season.

Can that happen again? (he asks forlornly)

 

[RevidgeBlue]

10 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

24 of those points were in two ‘runs’.

4 wins in a row last season

4 wins in 5 matches this season.

Can that happen again? (he asks forlornly)

 

Yes, that's a really good point.

Outside of those two brief runs his record really is impossibly bad.

And the first run of 4 games came from a better team when the pressure was off because it looked at the time as though we'd played ourselves completely out of play off contention and it didn't matter.

[wilsdenrover]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Yes, that's a really good point.

Outside of those two brief runs his record really is impossibly bad.

And the first run of 4 games came from a better team when the pressure was off because it looked at the time as though we'd played ourselves completely out of play off contention and it didn't matter.

Yep, he’s managed slumps of:

0 wins in 7 

2 wins in 10

1 win in 13 (current)

 

 

[Waggy76]

1 hour ago, wilsdenrover said:

24 of those points were in two ‘runs’.

4 wins in a row last season

4 wins in 5 matches this season.

Can that happen again? (he asks forlornly)

 

An influx of 3 or 4 proper championship players , possibly!

We will be weaker on February 2md 

[OnionBalaji]

Those negative runs should be stapled to his P45 

Fuck him off packing already Rudy, oh wait - that means your fragile ego gets a bruise 

[MarkBRFC]

I dont think 50 points will be needed to stay up this season, which is a good job because we aren't getting there with this bloke.

[Athlete]

2 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

44 points from 40 games.

so going off that its highly unlikely we will hit the 50 benchmark

[Rogerb]

5 minutes ago, Athlete said:

so going off that its highly unlikely we will hit the 50 benchmark

1.1 point per game extrapolated over a 46 game season is 50.6

[RevidgeBlue]

53 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

I dont think 50 points will be needed to stay up this season, which is a good job because we aren't getting there with this bloke.

We'll be lucky if we get to 40 points with this bloke!

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

I dont think 50 points will be needed to stay up this season, which is a good job because we aren't getting there with this bloke.

I was thinking maybe it will take more points than average. With Sheffield Wednesday barely competitive and compared to recent years, not the same level of dominance at the very top, there are more points to be shared around.

[47er]

3 hours ago, Rogerb said:

1.1 point per game extrapolated over a 46 game season is 50.6

3 points from the last 6 games! Just saying....

[JHRover]

Anyone surprised, confused or under any illusions about this regime and their interest/reactions to league positions and results need only go and research / remind themselves of what happened the last time they relegated us in 2016/17

Appointed a joke of a manager, not just proven to be a flash in the pan/busted flush but also with the added bonus of his only success being in the dugout of our hated rivals.

Left him in place until mid-February even though from the word 'go' we were nailed on for the bottom 3 and anyone with any sense could see it was only going to end one way. 

Lessons learned? I think not

[Waggy76]

55 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Anyone surprised, confused or under any illusions about this regime and their interest/reactions to league positions and results need only go and research / remind themselves of what happened the last time they relegated us in 2016/17

Appointed a joke of a manager, not just proven to be a flash in the pan/busted flush but also with the added bonus of his only success being in the dugout of our hated rivals.

Left him in place until mid-February even though from the word 'go' we were nailed on for the bottom 3 and anyone with any sense could see it was only going to end one way. 

Lessons learned? I think not

Very true but our Premier League relegation was far worse !

[TheFinalCountdown]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

Anyone surprised, confused or under any illusions about this regime and their interest/reactions to league positions and results need only go and research / remind themselves of what happened the last time they relegated us in 2016/17

Appointed a joke of a manager, not just proven to be a flash in the pan/busted flush but also with the added bonus of his only success being in the dugout of our hated rivals.

Left him in place until mid-February even though from the word 'go' we were nailed on for the bottom 3 and anyone with any sense could see it was only going to end one way. 

Lessons learned? I think not

This has season has been a carbon copy. Its relegation by design, to once again reduce costs and investments. 

Relegation is what they want.