lraC Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: I think the club sees this summer as a chance to reduce costs and renew the squad. Players like JRC and Buckley, whilst both being technically very good IMO, just don’t have the physicality to provide what Val is after. He appears to want hard-running players to go along with high-tempo style and it’s already been stated they are after a box-to-box midfielder.  Buckley couldn’t be further away from that profile but he’s still a fantastic passer of the ball when he’s on his game. But it’s probably time he moved on. I don’t think Val wants someone shuffling around the centre circle at 4mph! JRC looked really good in CM under JDT, and was making really good runs into the box. He could fit the Box-to-box role easily, cos he’s no slouch when he’s fit and he’s a nasty fucker when he wants to be, as well as being a really intelligent player….but sadly he’s  just  of glass. If he could stay fit he could be a real asset again.  They are both Championship level and should get a club. Not sure how much they’re worth though as I’m guessing they’ve only got a couple of years at most left on their contracts.   It’s a shame how Buckley has tailed off. As you say, he certainly has an eye for a pass and I had very high hopes for him, at one point. Quote
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BankEnd Rover Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 9 minutes ago, lraC said: It’s a shame how Buckley has tailed off. As you say, he certainly has an eye for a pass and I had very high hopes for him, at one point. Middlesbrough red card ruined him...He looked on good form in games before and even in that game alone. He's not done anything since. Quote
Forever Blue Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 13 minutes ago, lraC said: It’s a shame how Buckley has tailed off. As you say, he certainly has an eye for a pass and I had very high hopes for him, at one point. It is, cos he’s as good a long-range passer as there is in the Chamionship. Even Adam Wharton can’t ping a ball at pace like Buckley can over 40 yards onto the toe of the winger. He’d actually be a great asset to Val who seems to like to play with quick wingers so there may be a chance for him. It’s just the rest of Buckleys game has gone massively backwards. He also doesn’t move, he just shuffles round asking for the ball. Only Tugay gets away with that! Shame cos I really rate Buckley. He just needs to pull his finger out. Edited 13 hours ago by Forever Blue 3 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Christ people have been saying the same about Buckley for years it's about time the penny dropped. He's had numerous chances to stake his claim but never has he's now on the 3rd gaffer who'll likely see him as 3rd or 4th choice back up. 8 Quote
Forever Blue Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Christ people have been saying the same about Buckley for years it's about time the penny dropped. He's had numerous chances to stake his claim but never has he's now on the 3rd gaffer who'll likely see him as 3rd or 4th choice back up. What penny should  be dropped? Quote
roversfan99 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Im not sure I have seen many of these 40 yard passes from supposedly someone who can play these passes as well as anyone in the league. I suspect most players could at this level with enough time. But he has no awareness of what is going on around him, he takes far too long and cant take the ball on the turn. Im not saying that his application isnt in question but it isnt just a case of that stopping him from being a really good player at this level. He has been consistently poor in a deeper midfield role and he isnt productive enough to warrant playing further forward. 4 Quote
Forever Blue Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, roversfan99 said: Im not sure I have seen many of these 40 yard passes from supposedly someone who can play these passes as well as anyone in the league. I suspect most players could at this level with enough time. But he has no awareness of what is going on around him, he takes far too long and cant take the ball on the turn. Im not saying that his application isnt in question but it isnt just a case of that stopping him from being a really good player at this level. He has been consistently poor in a deeper midfield role and he isnt productive enough to warrant playing further forward. Complete nonsense, all of it. Can’t take the ball on the turn is a line you repeat often. It’s drivel. And he’s a fantastic passer of a ball when he’s in his game. You should pay more attention to what is actually going on instead of just focusing on the negatives all the time. 1 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, Forever Blue said: I think the club sees this summer as a chance to reduce costs  Just like the last 5 years. 1 Quote
CambridgeRover Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Buckley is a moron, plain and simple. Big ego bad attitude, something was off when we he started arguing with officials and it just got worse and worse. He is his own worst enemy 2 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: What penny should  be dropped? Well there won't be 100,000,000 of them i can tell you that. Quote
Backroom DE. Posted 13 hours ago Backroom Posted 13 hours ago If Buckley doesn't have the physical tools to handle the Championship he certainly won't be able to hack it in League 1. A similarly technically gifted player like Dack was a decent blend of both which is why he was able to handle both the Championship and League 1, and probably could have stepped up to be useful in the PL if injuries hadn't wrecked his opportunity to do so. Idk, feels like Buckley's skillset would be better suited abroad. Or as he is now - a second string Championship player who can give something different from the bench when players are tiring and the game is a bit less physical. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: Complete nonsense, all of it. Can’t take the ball on the turn is a line you repeat often. It’s drivel. And he’s a fantastic passer of a ball when he’s in his game. You should pay more attention to what is actually going on instead of just focusing on the negatives all the time. It isnt, its just an opinion. You are fixated on policing negativity beyond having a reasonable discussion. His best spell came further up under Mowbray (ie away from his own penalty box) but it was only a brief period. When he moved back he regularly lost the ball dawdling in dangerous areas. He obviously has some technical ability but he doesnt have a picture of what is around him. This wont suit the idea that I am only interested in negatives but Tronstad rarely loses the ball in those areas because he plays quickly and knows what is around him. I also have not seen much evidence of him being a "fantastic passer." There is a reason that he has failed to keep a regular place for a nunber of years under numerous managers, that he was loaned out and that he is now totally out of favour. 5 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Problem with him now as i see it is he knows he's a back up player and his attitude matches that, how often does he give away needless free kicks or open his mouth at the ref when hes committed one ? 5 year contract tailed him off imo. 1 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Ricky Jade Jones from Pboro has gone to St Pauli in Germany. Quote
Ricceh Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 28 minutes ago, ... said: Any good transfer rumours with some solid links? No this thread is for bickering only, sorry. 6 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 30 minutes ago, ... said: Any good transfer rumours with some solid links? I'm sure people will posted when they are out online Quote
roversfan99 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago We wanted 6 or 7 according to Ismael although that was presumably before we knew that Batth and Weimann were not staying. So up to 9. So I expect 7 signings in the next 2 weeks with Ismael wanting 90% in by pre season and considering his full alignment with Gestede, should be a cert. 9 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 25 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: Ricky Jade Jones from Pboro has gone to St Pauli in Germany. i really thought he`d be picked up by a mid table championship side.i.e us,preston,stoke etc Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, lraC said: It’s a shame how Buckley has tailed off. As you say, he certainly has an eye for a pass and I had very high hopes for him, at one point. Buckley in the last 2 years he hasn't develop and he has backwards in terms of playing time and influence on the games. @BankEnd Rover is right on when Buckley starting going backwards Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said: Buckley in the last 2 years he hasn't develop and he has backwards in terms of playing time and influence on the games. @BankEnd Rover is right on when Buckley starting going backwards A tag from Chaddy? Mum..Dad...I've made it. 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: We wanted 6 or 7 according to Ismael although that was presumably before we knew that Batth and Weimann were not staying. So up to 9. So I expect 7 signings in the next 2 weeks with Ismael wanting 90% in by pre season and considering his full alignment with Gestede, should be a cert. er yeah,ok,if we sign 7 players in the next fortnight,i`ll handglide off the blackburn end roof using a binliner 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago lets see who we gets in first, who and what qualities they have. some people are waiting till we don't make every signing before pre season and then they can say told you so and I was right and others were wrong. Batth hasn't sign for Derby yet and if they were offering a 2 year contract he would be sign up there.  Quote
Forever Blue Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, Ricceh said: No this thread is for bickering only, sorry. Chaddy liked this post, unironically it would seem. 2 Quote
Mercer Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: Problem with him now as i see it is he knows he's a back up player and his attitude matches that, how often does he give away needless free kicks or open his mouth at the ref when hes committed one ? 5 year contract tailed him off imo. Think it was utter lunacy to hand him that contract - his form and abilities never warranted it. 2 hours ago, BankEnd Rover said: Ricky Jade Jones from Pboro has gone to St Pauli in Germany. Posted almost a fortnight ago that I'd heard Rovers keen on Ryan Cooney (right back and God help us) and Ricky Jade Jones (striker). Think we all know what happens when a player has an alternative move. Quote
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